YouKnow, the internet's a funny place. I sometimes come across tiny christian message boards, usually maned by some poor, pimple-faced Baptist lad doing his bit to save us heathens from the confines his bedroom and bible plagued imagination.
Anyway, being a soft sort of bloke, I can't help saying hell-O. Nearly always the conversation takes the same path; Hello, Hello, how are you?, I'm fine thanks, me too, love Jesus?, never met him, here he is, no he's not, jesus saves, no he doesn't, but the bible says, who cares?, jesus cares, no he doesn't, yes he does, prove it, nothing personal but YOU'LL DIE IN HELL YOU PAGAN SON OF A BITCH!, ...... no I won't, YES YOU CERTAINLY WILL!! .... you calm now?, yeah sorry about that, that's ok I forgive ya ... being possessed by them Christian Demons must be the pits ...
I've been trying to shake one such fellow off for a while now. I've tried being nasty, I've tried being nice, I've even tried telling him about the truth. I like being silly for sillynesses sake but apart from using me as a sounding board for his pre-packaged retoric, what's in it for him?
Yesterdays installment:
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JOHN:
Then whom do you believe your creator to be if not God whom sent his son Jesus the Christ to die pay for your sins and offers you the free gift of eternal life with he and the father if you would accept it??. . . .. . . Satan?
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UB:
Yep Satan, - you sprung me. I believe that Satan, the Christian God of all that is evil, created the world and all it's wonders ;) It is obviously important for you to have a father figure created in your own American image and I'm not interested in shaking your faith or shattering your dreams (self deluded as they obviously are)
bye now, unclebruce
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JOHN:
I feel sorry for you my friend. . . .. you seem like to nice a guy to spend eternity in a lake of lonley burning fire. . . .But our God will not be mocked and you WILL bow before him if only to recieve the fruits of your sorry life upon this evil den of YOUR FATHER SATAN . . my condolences . . you know there are only 4 unpardonable sins. . . .and I think you got a shot at every one of them!
Read and Heed my friend. . . . .Its not too late . . .but time is running out. .
1 John 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death."
Sin unto death: Following are four un-pardonable sins.
Blasphemy the Holy Spirit!
Coming great tribulation receiving the mark of the beast!
Fall away or departing the faith (apostatize)!
Not receiving Jesus during their life!
1 John 5:16 "If any man see his brother sin a sin <which is> not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that
sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it." His brother sin ... not unto death: Galatians 6:1 "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness;
considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted." 1 John 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death."
Sin unto death:
Blasphemy the Holy Spirit:
Matthew 12:22-31 "Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch
that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. {23} And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? {24} But when the Pharisees heard <it>, they said, This <fellow> doth not cast out
devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. {25} And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom
divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: {26} And if Satan
cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? {27} And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by
whom do your children cast <them> out? therefore they shall be your judges. {28} But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God,
then the kingdom of God is come unto you. {29} Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. {30} He that is not with me is against me; and he that
gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. {31} Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy <against> the <Holy> Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." Mark 3:28-30 "Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: {29} But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal
damnation: {30} Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit." John 3:1-2 "There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of
the Jews: {2} The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." This sin is accounted to those who did it with knowledge. They saw the
miracles, but rejected Jesus, knowing he is from the
kingdom of God. They called good evil & Jesus evil while knowing he did good.
Coming great tribulation receiving the mark of the beast:
Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" God does warn & they know the mark's penalty. Revelation 14:9-11 "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image,
and receive <his> mark in his forehead, or in his hand, {10} The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is
poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of
the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: {11} And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and
they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Revelation 19:20 "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and <I saw> the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received <his> mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Fall away or departing the faith (apostatize):
Proverbs 29:1 "He, that being often reproved hardeneth <his> neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy." Romans 1:28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in <their> knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" Hebrews 6:4-6 "For <it is> impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, {5} And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, {6} If
they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they
crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put <him> to an open shame." Hebrews 10:26-29 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, {27} But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
{28} He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three
witnesses: {29} Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" An example could be Judas Iscariot. Matthew 26:24 "The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born." Matthew 27:4-5 "Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What <is that> to us? see thou <to that>. {5} And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and
departed, and went and hanged himself." God's punishment for sin can be more severe, for a similar sin, during various dispensational periods (such as with Israel's first King Saul or when Church first started - Ananias and his wife).
Not receiving Jesus during their life:
Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Does not call upon Jesus means they are
lost. John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath
of God abideth on him." Does not believe equals spiritually dead. The person's conscience would be seared and would curse God or want nothing to do with God. God would sent them evil
spirit (King Saul 1 Samuel 16:14-15) or reprobate mind: Romans 1:28 below (maybe Judas) There is no hope for a person who truly commits the unpardonable sin. Pray should not be made to God for that person. 1 Timothy 4:2 "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;" Romans 1:28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in <their> knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
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UB:
So the good news for modern unc is I'm gonna live forever, bad news is it's in a lonely lake of fire. What is a lonely lake of fire? can I bring a friend?
unclebruce
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And so on it goes through sillyness and absurdity forever and ever amen... ... why are fundies so long winded? ... or better still - what dropkick invented e-mail?