Sociopaths - What's Your Story? 

by Sea Breeze 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    First - Some Facts About Sociopaths

    1. 1 out of 100 people are sociopathic and they are rational people. They are not deluded.

    2. They display a lack of conscience, an inability to feel remorse, and above average intelligence

    3. It has been shown that if a normal amount of affection was not expressed by the parents, it could generate dysfunction for the child that would manifest itself in sociopathic tendencies.

    4. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest

    5. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure

    6. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead

    7. Irritability and aggressiveness with those who disagree with them

    8. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others.

    9. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations

    10. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

    Ok, so here is my sociopath story. I hired a builder once to build me a house just before leaving the WT. He was just starting out and wanted to make a good show out of it. He did lots of extra stuff for free or at cost. It was on two acres. Everything went well. He was exceptionally bright, somewhat charismatic and knew how to tell you what you wanted to hear. We kept in touch. I later went off to university and rented the house while I was gone. Afterwards I came back and rented an office from him along with an ex-cop turned attorney and a real estate broker/lending corporation.

    He talked me into lending 50K to a guy who needed money who put up 288 acres for collateral.... far above 50 K in value.

    AS the months rolled by, I kept asking why I never received payments from the loan. I kept getting one BS story after another. Finally, I called the borrower and he said that Gary had told him not to make the payments just yet. I did some checking and found out that the lenders lien had never been filed and there was only a few days to file it or Gary would be able to legally seize the property as the unpaid broker. I hurriedly prepared the document and drove 100 miles to the small town and dutifully filed the lien only 24 hrs. before the deadline.

    The borrower got another loan from somewhere else and paid me off with interest so I dodged a bullet.

    I later found out that he ripped off the attorney somehow. One vendor guy lost 10k in furniture he delivered and never got paid. He told me that his research indicated that Gary had been sued over 100 times and characterized him as a con artist.

    A few years later Gary showed up in the newspaper in a real estate deal where he ripped off a multi-billion dollar tech company in a real estate deal for 3-4 million dollars. I was impressed. After years in the courts, he finally went to trial and beat it using politically connected lawyers that somehow felt ingratiated to him. He was the best schmoozer I ever met.

    A few years after that, he finally got sent to prison along with a State Senator for a ponzi investment scheme that sold - GET THIS : (drum roll ) - SAND.

    Yup, sand. Supposedly it was needed for fracking in south Texas. BTW, south Texas is full of sand. I kid you not. They are both still in prison. They took millions from poor rich old ladies and greedy suckers.

    It has been strangely gratifying over the years to look him up on the internet and track his sociopathic rise and fall. There is a lot more to tell, but you get the gist. I feel lucky that out of everyone he ripped off in his career, I may be the only one that actually came out ahead!

    Anyone else have a sociopath story?

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard
    Anyone else have a sociopath story?

    I forwarded to cedars..

  • neat blue dog
    neat blue dog

    Yep a JW relative of mine was just like that, multiple schemes over the years scamming for property, labor and cash in different states. Only got disciplined for it by the Elders twice, but even then he always comes back in good standing because darn it, he's just such a friendly, swell guy! 🙂

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    NEAT BLUE DOG:

    Even back when I was a ‘believer’ I was aware of JWs who were con-artist types.

    Did I have these instincts because I was not raised in the religion and worked? Who knows? All I knew was there were people there who were full of sh#t and I avoided them.

    I also feel that even though in the world you will find con artist types, I believe they are over-represented in the religion.

    Again, I blame the stupid culture there with ‘no boundaries’ and being told you should ‘widen out’. But, what were you widening out to? ..I’m not being targeted by people who are desperadoes or crazies. (In case any aren’t aware, people with serious ‘issues’ were brought into the religion the last two decades. They did this to fill the empty seats in the halls.)

    The demographic in the religion has changed for the worse.

    I also think the culture of the religion inadvertently creates very adept Users. People may not have joined as one but they become one. Some of them now are older and more desperate and they don’t feel shame..All these are reasons contributing to why I’m Glad to no longer be in this religion.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Anyone else have a sociopath story? - yeah, me, I think.

    I'm probably a sociopath, or at least have some sociopathic tendencies.

    I don't have a relationship with my dad anymore because of my own choice, and I have little relationship with the rest of my family who's still alive.

    The last time I saw a family member face-to-face was in January 2018 - that's over four years ago.

    The only member of my family I really love (and miss) is my mum. She died in 2004, after being paralysed neck-down from a stroke she suffered in 1997.

    I'm more than comfortable with my own company. Weird, huh?

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    I'm probably a sociopath

    Oh, I seriously doubt that. Real sociopaths don't feel guilt or remorse. They certainly would not say what you just said. But, isolation is not healthy. Pets help... giving to others.... some self disclosure (like you just did here) are all very healthy. But they require a little work and some maintenance... Well worth the effort.

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