Jehovah's Witnesses View of Jesus Compared to the Early Church by Cofty

by Jerryh 2 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Jerryh
    Jerryh

    Cofty, just saw your post which you updated from 16 years ago.

    If I understand your current view of the Bible it's that it is without merit and should not be believed.

    I respect that but at the same time your ability to summarize the doctrine is first rate. You also said :

    This is not a defense of the trinity or of the deity of Jesus - that's a whole different thread.

    Your OP is great. I realize trinity discussions can be a black hole but given the 9 bullet points, would you say

    the trinity was a reasonable thing for the early church to deduce?

    Jerryh

  • cofty
    cofty

    Hi Jerryh

    I typed up the original article 16 years ago, a few years after I left the Watchtower and while I was an evangelical christian. I decided to scan it and publish here 3 years ago because I think it has real potential to help a JW see that their religion is very different from early christianity.

    It isn't really a doctrinal discussion, more of an observation of the way early christian writers spoke about Jesus. in my opinion this is a far more powerful approach than debating the deity of Jesus and inviting a barrage of "proof-texts".

    would you say the trinity was a reasonable thing for the early church to deduce?

    No I wouldn't to be honest.

    As we read the NT we see an evolution of Christology. The crucial moment in Jesus biography shifts from his baptism to a miraculous birth to a pre-human life. Early christians faced a conflict between monotheism in theory and adoration of Jesus in praxis.

    They eventually co-opted esoteric Greek notions about essence and substance to try to square the circle. The addition of the HS to complete the triad came even later.

    It is impossible to explain the trinity in everyday, simple language without self-contradiction and/or heresy.

    More than one early christian writer spoke about the "god and father of our Lord Jesus". This simple fact makes the trinity impossible.

    This is why I think it is important to have a much more modest objective when talking to a JW and be content to show them that their relationship with Jesus is very different from the one early christians would recognise...

  • Jerryh
    Jerryh
    thanks...take care

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