Versions of the bible

by dutyfree 4 Replies latest jw friends

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  dutyfree

  There are many versions of the bible, as we all know. We have the King James Version, the New International Version (the most widely accepted one), the New World Translation...

  In the NWT version, we will find the word Jehovah about 237 times. Yet, in the original Greek manuscript it does not appear once.
  I'm sure it has been explained to me many times, but no one has yet been able to satisfactorily explain why words like Christ was removed and Jehovah inserted in its place.

  On a separate note, the founder of the WTBTS, Charles Taze Russell did not create the word Jehovah, but he is the founder of the WTBTS... that caused much confusion for me for ages! So the 'inventor' of the word Jehovah, then can be attributed to his successor, J F Rutherford.

  Many thanks,

  Foxy
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  Fredhall

  Don't be such a bum-ass dutyfree. E. Hutter put Jehovah's name in the NT 261 times and I don't see you apostates complaining about it. Plus, Jehovah's means "he causes to become". So actions always fit his name. If he want to become a warrior then he can do it. And his name was in existance way before man was on earth. So, don't give us apostate crap that Rutherford name God
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  TheApostleAK

  Greetings!,

  There are many versions of the bible, as we all know. We have the King James Version, the New International Version (the most widely accepted one), the New World Translation...

  I know which one i'd use that's for sure! NWT beats them all hands down.

  In the NWT version, we will find the word Jehovah about 237 times. Yet, in the original Greek manuscript it does not appear once.
  I'm sure it has been explained to me many times, but no one has yet been able to satisfactorily explain why words like Christ was removed and Jehovah inserted in its place.

  How about in Revelation 19? There are for and against arguments for having Jehovah in the NT. See the book by Raymond Franz called "In search of christian freedom" for more on it.

  I've seen it once where Christ was removed and Jehovah put in its place......early manuscripts have God there and later manuscripts (4th century) onwards have Christ....So God would be put there cos anything 4th century onwards would be suspect or a bit dodgy.

  Just because the divine name wasn't used doesn't mean God is a trinity.

  On a separate note, the founder of the WTBTS, Charles Taze Russell did not create the word Jehovah, but he is the founder of the WTBTS... that caused much confusion for me for ages! So the 'inventor' of the word Jehovah, then can be attributed to his successor, J F Rutherford.

  I recently visited some bible student's and I told them that Russell created Jehovah's Witnesses....big no no. The name Jehovah was I believe created by a catholic priest in the 12th century.
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  SanFranciscoJim

  I'm currently studying several books which have an entirely different take on the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). According to what I've been reading, the reason the ancient Hebrews did not pronounce the "name of God" was because it wasn't a name at all, but a mathematical equation for the essence of the universe. I'm not particularly good at math, but one scientist shows through geometry how by assigning the numerical value of the Hebrew letters, the equation equals the number 144. Weird, eh?
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  outnfree

  Actually, Foxy, I believe the 12th century Catholic priest or monk "coining" Jehovah is correct.

  However, as to the reason why the Witnesses put Jehovah in the Christian Greek Scriptures, I did some research on this and found that NOWHERE is the name Jehovah written in the Greek manuscript -- Kyrios, or Lord is used. The little footnotes that show that some "J" sources used "Jehovah" in the modified verses in the NWT refer to various translations of the Greek Scriptures into Hebrew. (See the Kingdom Interlinear, Pages 28-31.) THEN, the Watch Tower Society translated these Hebrew translations back into English and retained "Jehovah/YHWH" where it appeared in the HEBREW translations.

  If you are interested in trying to determine where in the Greek Christian Scriptures/New Testament Lord refers to Jesus and where it refers to YHWH, I'd suggest picking up a copy of The Jerusalem Bible.
  It uses Yahweh in the Hebrew Scriptures (which is more correct than "LORD") and it only uses "Lord" in the Greek Scriptures. Also Hebrew Scripture passages are italicized and footnoted in the New Testament, which makes it easy to refer back to see whether the "Lord" in the OT is Yahweh or the foretold Messiah. (This is what the Society says it has done for you on Page 18 of the Foreword of the Kingdom Interlinear book.)

  Also, I know of no place in the NWT where "words like Christ was removed and Jehovah inserted in its place."

  Hope this helps.
  outnfree
  (P.S. The NIV is pretty good, but doesn't use Jehovah or Yahweh or the tetragrammaton in the OT, which is a flaw.)

  outnfree