Eternity...with or without Jehovah?

Salamanda

Do JW's believe that when they finally make it to the paradise earth, that Jehovah will continue to dwell in heaven? Basically, that they will NOT get to be with Jehovah forever? If this is the case, does this bother faithful JWs?

smiddy3

Where or what is heaven Salamanda ? Is the International Space Station circling the earth every ninety minutes or so in heaven or just outside it ?

Did the twelve men who walked on the moon pass through heaven to get there ? They have never made any mention of it existing.

Have the many space probes that have gone out by many Countries through the Solar System ever encountered a Heaven ?

And I believe two Voyager spacecraft have actually exited our Solar System and haven`t detected it yet.

By the way welcome to the forum ,I gather you are not one of Jehovah`s Witnesses ? Is that correct ? Or are you an ex like most of us here ?

Salamanda

Not a JW or former JW, just researching JW beliefs. Can't find the answer to this question anywhere, not even on JW.org! I would greatly appreciate a JW's or former JW's perspective on this. Thanks!

Edit to add- I'm not here to debate whether or not heaven exists, just wanting the JW perspective on these things. :)

waton

S welcome here. One ides that wt has of "heaven" is spelled out in the current weekly study of the "restore worship" book; The chariot, with Holy spirit suspension. a magical world with 6 winged, 4 faced angels.

Most jws do not believe they will ever enter there. only 12 dozen thousands will go close to Jesus, and then even higher to the father.

Personally, it is anyone's guess what the details are for a domain before creation, where we are certain that only uncreated energy and endless time existed. energytime in timespace.

a watcher

Salamanda, in answer to your original questions: yes, correct, and no.

EverApostate

AS far as I was brainwashed (Until 10 years ago), Jehovah would be in heaven and the bearded Jesus and his anointed associates would be supervising the paradise Earth. Death would be instant for rebellers like me

May be the new Light changed after that

Overrated

All this dreamed up by an alcohol induced delusion by a bunch of power hungry men. Is it possible? Like everything they but out, it's delusional.

Rocketman123

All this dreamed up by an alcohol induced delusion by a bunch of power hungry men. Is it possible?

Sure there are many people today that are holding and believing that there was a god that created all what we see, a good portion believe its the bible god. (YHWH)

So making up a theology backed by bible scripture is relatively easy and you dont have to be inherently accurate either as the JWS have shown.

Say it and they will come

smiddy3

Salamanda ,maybe their is a bit of confusion as to what YOU think Jehovah`s witnesses believe.?

I`ll see if I can straighten that out.

Firstly only 144,000 JW`s will rule with JC in the heavens for the 1,000 years of JC rule.

And after that only they will be with jehovah in the heavens for eternity .Only they will attain immortality.

The rest of JW`s who survive Armageddon will eventually live in a paradise earth restored by those survivors with Jehovah`s blessing and have the prospect of living eternally on earth in a paradise similar to what Adam and Eve had in the beginning.

And if any one falls short or does not comply with Gods arrangement then, they will simply lose their life, be cut off.

And because of what has happened previously their is therefore no more need of a perfect sacrifice.

Jesus having done that for eternity.

They will not have the same outcome as the 144,000 who will reside with Jehovah in the heavens .

Their are two distinct ,different classes in JW theology ,the little flock who go to heaven ,and the other sheep who will reside on earth.

I hope that answers your question more fully ,and if you can get your head around all of that good luck to you.

I`m sorry I didn`t answer your question more fully the first time around.

I`m pretty sure many current Jehovah`s Witnesses don`t even realise or care about these facts.

smiddy

Salamanda

Thank you everyone, this has been helpful!

Basically, my whole point in all this is- I'm surprised that they call their message "good news"...don't they strive for a relationship with their god? Don't they long to be with him someday? Why are they longing for this kingdom if they never actually get to be with the god who saved them, gave them the kingdom...whatever he did for them? Sounds depressing. Reminds me of "The Good Place".

I'm just surprised...or maybe most don't think about this. Anyway, I was just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Eternity...with or without Jehovah?

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