Do You Think Trump And His Whole Team Of Advisers Should Drop Acid?

by Brokeback Watchtower 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower

    I mean back in the 60's when LSD was legal they did experiments with the drug to find out it's problem solving ability and the results were amazing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment

    Psychedelic agents in creative problem-solving experiment was a study designed to evaluate whether the use of a psychedelic substance with supportive setting can lead to improvement of performance in solving professional problems. The altered performance was measured by subjective reports, questionnaires, the obtained solutions for the professional problems and psychometric data using the Purdue Creativity, the Miller Object Visualization, and the Witkins Embedded Figures tests.[1] This experiment was a pilot that was to be followed by control studies as part of exploratory studies on uses for psychedelic drugs, that were interrupted early in 1966 when the Food and Drug Administration declared a moratorium on research with human subjects, as a strategy in combating illicit use.[2]
    Some weeks before the actual experiment, a preliminary experiment was conducted. It consisted of two sessions with four participants in each. The groups worked on two problems chosen by the research personnel. The first group consisted of four people with professional experience in electrical engineering, engineering design, engineering management and psychology. They were given 50 micrograms of LSD. The second group consisted of four research engineers, three with a background in electronics and one in mechanics. They were given 100 milligrams of mescaline. Both groups were productive in ideation but, according to Fadiman, the fact that the participants didn't have actual personal stake in the outcome of the session negatively affected the actualization of the ideas. This is why the actual study focused on personal professional problems that the participants were highly motivated to tackle.[3]
    The experiment was carried out in 1966 in a facility of International Foundation for Advanced Study, Menlo Park, California, by a team including Willis Harman, Robert H. McKim, Robert E. Mogar, James Fadiman and Myron Stolaroff. The participants of the study consisted of 27 male subjects engaged in a variety of professions: sixteen engineers, one engineer-physicist, two mathematicians, two architects, one psychologist, one furniture designer, one commercial artist, one sales manager, and one personnel manager. Nineteen of the subjects had had no previous experience with psychedelics. Each participant was required to bring a professional problem they had been working on for at least 3 months, and to have a desire to solve it.
    Commonly observed characteristics of the psychedelic experience seemed to operate both for and against the hypothesis that the drug session could be used for performance enhancement. The research was therefore planned so as to attempt to provide a setting that would maximize improved functioning, while minimizing effects that might hinder effective functioning.[4] Each group of four subjects met for an evening session several days before the experiment. They received instructions and introduced themselves and their unsolved problems to the group. Approximately one hour of pencil-and-paper tests were also administered. At the beginning of the day of the experiment session, subjects were given 200 milligrams of mescaline sulphate (a moderately light dose compared to the doses used in experiments to induce mystical experiences). After some hours of relaxation, subjects were given tests similar to the ones on the introduction day. After the tests, subjects had four hours to work on their chosen problems. After the working phase, the group would discuss their experiences and review the solutions they had come up with. After this, the participants were driven home. Within a week after the session, each participant wrote a subjective account of his experience. Six weeks further, subjects again filled in questionnaires, this time concentrating on the effects on post-session creative ability and the validity and reception of the solutions conceived during the session. This data was in addition to the psychometric data comparing results of the two testing periods.
    Results[edit]
    Solutions obtained in the experiment include:[3][5][6]
    • a new approach to the design of a vibratory microtome
    • a commercial building design, accepted by the client
    • space probe experiments devised to measure solar properties
    • design of a linear electron accelerator beam-steering device
    • a chair design, modeled and accepted by the manufacturer
    • a letterhead design, approved by the customer
    • a mathematical theorem regarding NOR gate circuits
    • completion of a furniture-line design
    • a new conceptual model of a photon, which was found useful
    • design of a private dwelling, approved by the client
    • insights regarding how to use interferometry in medical diagnosis application sensing heat distribution in the human body
    The participants also reported following experiences of enhanced functioning: low inhibition and anxiety, capacity to restructure problem in larger context, enhanced fluency and flexibility of ideation, heightened capacity for visual imagery and fantasy, increased ability to concentrate, heightened empathy with external processes and objects, heightened empathy with people, subconscious data more accessible, association of dissimilar ideas, heightened motivation to obtain closure, visualizing the completed solution.
  • schnell
    schnell

    Sure.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Key question : was the research finding that acid helped problem solving itself conducted while the researchers were on acid?

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    Why do you want Republicans to have more imagination? The only problems they would solve is that of maximizing the number of citizens who support them.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Sorry I would have to not agree with this for the simple reason Trump is not an deep thinking intellectual, more of an surface emotional thinker, usually when these types of personalities and characters start talking drugs they exacerbate their internal problems and all hell breaks lose..

    God forbid No please keep drugs and booze away from the Pres. Trump god knows what he'll do under those mind altering influences.

  • ZAPPA-ESQUE
    ZAPPA-ESQUE

    “None of us are going to deny what other people are doing. If saying bullshit is somebody's thing, then he says bullshit. If somebody is an ass-kicker, then that's what he's going to do on this trip, kick asses. He's going to do it right out front and nobody is going to have anything to get pissed off about. He can just say, 'I'm sorry I kicked you in the ass, but I'm not sorry I'm an ass-kicker. That's what I do, I kick people in the ass.' Everybody is going to be what they are, and whatever they are, there's not going to be anything to apologize about. What we are, we're going to wail with on this whole trip.”
    Tom Wolfe, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test



  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Brokeback WT - "Do you think Trump and his whole team of advisors should drop acid?"

    What makes you think they haven't? :smirk:

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