Interesting new findings on evolution...

by Bad_Wolf 9 Replies latest social current

  • Bad_Wolf
    Bad_Wolf

    I link the article below. In summary it claims that analyzing dna code from over 100,000 species found that 90%of all species including humans came about at the same time 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, and another "And yet—another unexpected finding from the study—species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between."


    Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html#jCp

    https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html

  • cofty
    cofty

    It's an interesting finding. I think I remember discussing it with a creationist on the forum a few months ago who thought he saw support for his superstitions. It was probably Perry. There is a lot of scope for misunderstanding this paper.

    It doesn't call into question the fact that extant species diverged from common ancestors over millions of years. It does appear to show that there has been a genetic 'sweep' within the past 100,000 - 200,000 years.

    Extant species can be thought of as being like the tips of branches on a bush. They all budded within a relatively short time but their origins go very deep.

  • Bad_Wolf
    Bad_Wolf

    What happened 100 to 200,000 years ago? It says the last mass extinction event was 65 million years ago. So something happened 100,000 to 200,000 years ago that we don't know about?

    Also I wonder if the "species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between" is a finding that still supports as you said species being the tips of branches or not.

    Eager to see what followup and more in depth information comes from this.

  • cofty
    cofty
    What happened 100 to 200,000 years ago?

    Selection pressure caused by environmental changes. Evolution never stops. Many of today's species are sufficiently different from their ancestors to be designated as new species within the last 100,000 - 200,000 years. That's all.

    I wonder if the "species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between" is a finding that still supports as you said species being the tips of branches or not

    Yes that's exactly what it means.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Selection pressure caused by environmental changes.

    Yes good important point Cofy , biological evolution is related to environment change.

  • ttdtt
    ttdtt

    FYI - we all share 44.1% of our DNA with bananas.

    Odd choice if doG made us as an individual creation:)

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    FYI - we all share 44.1% of our DNA with bananas.

    Odd choice if doG made us as an individual creation:smile:

    And we share 16% of our DNA with lettuce!

    https://ask.metafilter.com/110434/Shared-humanlettuce-DNA

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    Speaking as both part lettuce and half banana, I would like to add that the background to evolution in the northern and southern temperate zones is influenced by two important factors; cyclic climate change and specie extinctions.

    During the past 2,6 million years there have been on average a recurring cycle of about 100,000 years repeating typically this succession of climates: very cool for most of say 50,000 years punctuated with an arctic "or "glacial" episode followed by very cool and then warming up to the mild "interglacial" which we have been experiencing for the last 10,000 years. This may last another ten thousand, maybe more maybe less. These cyclic episodes alter the ecology of the various geographical regions and habitats and put stress especially on the ability of mammalian inhabitants to keep the same populations breeding.

    It came as a surprise to me to learn that during the last cool episode leading up to and including the last glacial, that in North America were lost something like 75% of all large mammals. For example mammoth, mastodon, glyptodon (giant armadillo) giant beaver and six of the seven species of bison, camelops, big cats and short faced bears. The extinctions allow for new species to evolve by the vacant ecological niches available to be exploited. There is a rule that the larger the mammal the fewer the generations they survive. Squirrels have been around for about twenty million years but woolly mammoths only from 250,000 years ago to 4,000. Extinctions can be sudden but speciation (arrival of new species) is only apparent over geological time.

    Incidentally, doing palaeontology and archaeology were things I put on hold when I became a JW as a young teenager. So it was with great pleasure after leaving the cult, that I joined a university group and helped dig up many mammoths (Mammuthus primigenius) as well as a few straight tusked elephant (Palaeoloxodon antiquus) here in Oxfordshire, England.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Interesting comments thanks Half-Banana

  • Bad_Wolf
    Bad_Wolf
    delete

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit