New type study for inactive ones now?

by careful 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  careful

  Of course, conducting a "bible" study (actually a WTS publication study) with an inactive person who comes back is nothing new. I did so on occasion when i was in, or the BOE would assign someone else to do so, especially if it was a sister.

  However, i recently heard of this: during the course of the study the elders would go through a loyalty check of the person wanted to rejoin up by going through the baptismal questions again, just like they were a complete newbie. Has anyone else heard of this? I'm wondering if its official or just some local BOE fantasy.
  
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  HereIgo

  That is interesting. I have never heard of this but its not surprising. It could just be the local BOE going beyond the things written once again. Hopefully some ex or current elders still in will shed light on this....
  
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  Chook

  I don't think even cash incentives would get any of us back
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  LongHairGal

  I had a naive JW friend hint at this not long ago.....I didn't bite. If I ever get something like an ultimatum from them at any point, I will tell this person Adios!

  The religion has lost so many people and the affluent elderly are dying off. These were the ones throwing money around like confetti. When they are gone it's over, I think.

  The religion cannot attract or retain quality people (responsible and intelligent). They want to focus on "inactive" former members and imagine they will rekindle interest. Hah!

  What could I expect if I were dumb enough to go back there?? Appeals for money and favors I guess, in more strident tones than anybody ever heard before.

  As CHOOK says above: even cash incentives couldn't get me back there. I'd get physically ill.
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  WTWizard

  If the cash incentive was high enough, and there was a clause that there is no way they could get any of it back, I would go in there and bork everything on purpose. When asked to pray, it would be "In the name of the archetype of the perfect slave" instead of jesus. Or, "In the name of the non-existent entity that is intended to keep our Kundalini serpent suppressed".

  Calls would be a disaster. Every time I had the chance to place a damnation book, I would mention that this book provides joke-hova and its reptilian crew with the energy to enslave the whole planet, and then the whole universe. You want to help exterminate every last vestige of freedom from the whole universe, by all means take this damnation book and the publications based on it.

  And zero donations. Rather, I would put slips of paper that are Void Checks with the message written "I will not support this organization's bid to work with the reptilians to enslave the whole planet." Those would go right into the Worldwide Damnation Fund boxes. And don't even think of direct payment from whatever bank account I have, let alone getting paid in silver or gold.

  Of course, giving me the duties of hounders would be even worse. I would dog every single talk, and at Big and Grand Boasting Sessions, I would keep mentioning that jesus is the archetype of the perfect slave, and following the LIE-ble is providing the reptilians with the means of enslaving the whole world. No matter what, they would never get "proper" service out of me.

  And I would keep whatever money they offered--there is no amount that would get me to go back to believing that joke-hova (an alpha draconian) wants anything but damnation for humanity. Or that the filthy angels are anything other than greys and reptilians, along with some Nordics that turned traitor, and thought forms. Or that the whole "Original sin" is anything more than Alcyone Law being forced on the earth (Belt of Orion Law, which is what Satan goes by, is in fact more in tune with natural law while Alcyone Law is intended to destroy all freedom). You broke Alcyone Law while on Earth (under Orion Law), but if you will sacrifice everything, we can reconciliate you with Alcyone Law and your ultimate damnation.

  I wonder if they would still want me back.
  
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  darkspilver

  Hi careful

  However, i recently heard of this: during the course of the study the elders would go through a loyalty check of the person wanted to rejoin up by going through the baptismal questions again, just like they were a complete newbie. Has anyone else heard of this? I'm wondering if its official or just some local BOE fantasy.

  Sounds like you're hearing a chinese whisper of the standard procedure that seems to have been in place for at least the last twelve years
  

  BoE Letter February 4, 2004
  

  Before inviting a longtime inactive one to share in the ministry, two elders should meet with him to see if he meets the basic requirements to again serve as a Kingdom publisher, as outlined on pages 98-9 of the Our Ministry book. They will follow a procedure similar to that used when meeting with new ones seeking to publish the good news.

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtleGZhMk5MQ1A0dEk/view
  

  The above principle is still in place, though now with the updated Organized to Do Jehovah’s Will book, using pages 79-81

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlVkp3T0c3WnFhNVk/view
  
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  freddo

  @careful

  darkspilver has it spot on.

  Yes you offer a BS to inactives (under the service committee's direction) but if it's been more than about six months inactive they get the loyalty test usually dressed up as loving concern and usually based on what an unbaptised publisher gets asked (not the full baptism Q's).

  However if Dave the drifter tells his study conductor he's done anything "serious" (ranging from smoking/bashing the bishop to porn etc. through celebrating Xmas/Hallowe'en and/or rogering half the University College cheerleading team all the way up to disbelieving 1914 was the start of the Gentile times or saying Stephen Lett acts and looks like a rubber faced clown) then he get's dealt with judicially and if "unrepentant" can find himself out on his ear with an unwanted DF around his neck.
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  careful

  Thank you, darkspilver!