Happy (Substitution) Resurrection Sunday !

by Sea Breeze 3 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Why is the Substitution Atonement hidden under piles of nonsense in WT literature? The bottom line is that those who join the the WT as adults, found a religion that agrees with their personality and nature.

    Yes, they will say Jesus makes it possible, but each JW gets to individually take credit for their own salvation. They are that good in their own mind.

    And, if you don't get it just right, you get to be resurrected and get a "do over". Nevermind that

    scriptures says :

    1."by the works of the law shall no man be justified"

    2. "do not put your trust in mere men"

    3. There is no such thing as new light, like the two-tier salvation that WT promotes. Christian doctrine was fixed when the last apostle died. - Read Gal. 1: 8-9

    4. "it is appointed unto man once to die and then judgement" - Hebrews 9: 27

    The simple good news is that Jesus took the punisment due YOU and me (not Adam like the WT says).

    Is. 53 says: But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    Here's the legal exchange in NT scripture:

    For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Cor. 5: 21

    Foreshadowed by:

    "And Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel, and all their transgressions, all their sins. And he shall put them (your sins) on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness (where he will surely be torn to pieces by wild anaimals) - Lev. 16

    The bottom line is that Jesus wants' to be your scapegoat (your Substitute) just like pictured in the OT.... if you let him into your heart. Today is a good day to get saved.

    My post-JW position is: If you don't want to accept Christianity, fine. At least know what it is that you are rejecting. The WT seeks to take away this choice through deception. But Jesus, want's you to get off scott-free for every wrong thing you have ever done, no elders meetings, no field circus, no works at all.


  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    Sea Breeze, do you believe in "once saved, always saved - even for those who later become atheistic naturalists"?

    In one of Paul's letters Paul said fornicators (as well as a number of other types of sinners) won't enter God's kingdom, but many Christians who supposedly became saved are such sinners. According to scripture, are those Christians really saved or are they instead blocking from entering God's kingdom? The WT governing body members claim to have the heavenly hope, to be anointed ones, to be in the new covenant, and to have Christ as their mediator. According to scripture, are they thus saved?

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    The WT governing body members claim to have the heavenly hope, to be anointed ones, to be in the new covenant, and to have Christ as their mediator. According to scripture, are they thus saved?

    I don't think so for many reasons. But, this reason has to be one of the top:


    "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Gal. 1: 8-9

    The GB preaches a two-tier salvation - one with the new covenant and one without. This is a different gospel than what the apostles preached.

    But woe unto you...for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. - Jesus

  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    Thank you Sea Breeze for your reply to my question; you gave excellent answers.

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