Jesus and his Disciples Going Door-To-Door JW-Style? Not Likely!

by Room 215 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Anyone who naively believes that Jesus and his First Century followers went door-to-door JW style betrays his/her ignorance of Jewish cultural mores and lifestyles of the time.

    In that male-dominated society, in which traditionally women were regarded as little more than chattel, how would the public regard women who knocked on people's doors uninvited? Or, assuming she was even at home during the day, what self-respecting Jewish woman would open her door to a stranger -- especially males -- in the absence of her husband?

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    .... and they didn't even have McDonald's or donut houses for service breaks!! So no wonder they didn't go out door-to-door that much.

    But even scripturally where it says that "he gave SOME as teachers, SOME as ministers...", etc. , implies that not everyone had the gift of publicly teaching others about Christianity. So to think that every 1st-century Christian went door-knocking is merely the WTS way of making their followers do their bidding.

  • Valis
    Valis

    From the PBS website...also good Roman history stuff there too..

    http://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/life/life5c.html

    Early Christians

    After the death of Jesus, word of his teachings spread to Jewish communities outside Palestine, but soon Paul and other apostles and missionaries began to preach to non-Jews as well.

    Keith Bradley: It would've been very difficult for Christianity to spread as dramatically and quickly throughout the ancient world as it did had Paul not been able to draw on the framework of communications that was there as part of the Roman imperial system. It was possible to travel throughout the ancient world fairly quickly... And it was possible for Paul to follow Roman roads and to go to Roman towns and Greek towns and communicate his message in a way that was probably impossible under any other previous imperial system.
    For the next thirty years, Paul traveled some ten thousand miles across territory ruled by Rome. He preached in the empire's great cities — Ephesus, Philippi, Corinth, Athens and others — cities that enjoyed imperial grandeur, but cities teeming with the poor and desperate subjects of Rome. They made eager audiences for Paul's message of eternal life. Like Jesus before him, Paul spoke to people in their homes and synagogues. But while Jesus had preached only to Jews, Paul believed his message should be taken to non-Jews: to the Gentiles of the Roman Empire. And that meant relaxing timeless Jewish laws about food and circumcision. It was a radical slap at Jewish tradition... and the key to the spread of this new faith.

    Karen King: There was a lot of variety in the early Christian movement. There weren't just twelve men, but there were a wide variety of men and women who were responsible for the formation of Christianity. We can chart in some ways some of the issues that were central to the formation of this group. And certainly one of those has to do with circumcision and food laws. These are taken up very directly by the letters of Paul. What's at stake? What's at stake in the question of whether when you become a follower of Jesus the Messiah, the Jewish Christ, you should take up circumcision and food laws or not.
    As the movement began to accept non-Jewish members, and began to move farther away from the strict religious requirements of Judaism, it grew into a separate and distinct religion.

    Christian Persecution

    The Great Fire of Rome, in 64 AD, which lasted for six days and seven nights, destroyed all but four of Rome's fourteen districts. Countless temples, homes, and shops were destroyed. When the fire burnt itself out, Nero surveyed the smoldering ruins. He opened public buildings — even his own property — to the homeless.

    However well intended, his relief measures were in vain, because rumors began to arise among the people that Nero himself had started the fire to clear land for a new palace. These rumors were so widely believed that the Emperor decided to divert attention away from himself by offering up a scapegoat in Rome's strange new religious sect: the Christians.

    Jesus had been crucified barely thirty years before. His followers were actively spreading his word, but the number of Christians in Rome was still very small — and already viewed with suspicion.
    Keith Bradley: From a Roman point of view, the Christians at Rome in the middle of the First Century were a completely oddball, bizarre group of religious people. Their practices were very strange. Their central and most important ritual involved... what could only be regarded as a cannibalistic practice, that is drinking blood and eating flesh. That was simply unacceptable from a Roman point of view and had to be repressed. They also placed a heavy emphasis on an idea such as the brotherhood of man, which they celebrated through activities that were called love feasts... It seemed as if they were engaged in incestuous behavior, doing something that was sexually just not permissible. So it was easy for Nero, as a consequence of these misconceptions… to turn public opinion against them and claim that they as anti-social deviants had set fire to Rome.

    Nero rounded up all the Christians in the city, and they were hideously tortured and executed in a grand public spectacle. Some were crucified, others were thrown to wild animals, and still others were burned alive as living torches. Despite its brutality, Nero's persecution of the new Christian sect was short lived, and it was not repeated in other parts of the Empire in the first century. Trajan, responding to a question from Pliny on how to deal with Christians in the Asian provinces, ordered that they should not specifically be sought out, but could be punished if they were denounced and refused to recant.

    In time, Christian church leadership strengthened and solidified both the church government and its influence throughout the Empire. Local Christian groups were at first led by a Council of Elders, but were eventually ruled by bishops known as the Episcopus. An official Christian creed was being written and adopted by the end of the 2nd century AD, and in 313 AD Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan accepting Christianity. It became the official religion of the Roman Empire at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • jws
    jws

    You're right. I don't think I ever remember reading anything in the Bible about Jesus or his disciples knocking on a door as part of an account.

    It seems, from what I recall, they went to where crowds were or where they could attract a crowd and got their message out that way. Paul went to synagogues to debate. Jesus gave the sermon on the mount.

    The other way seems to be what the JWs would call "incidental witnessing". They just encountered people and talked to them.

    But that isn't to say that if people were to try and preach in this day and age, door-to-door isn't an effective way to do it. It got them about 6 million members.

  • Hamas
    Hamas

    Who gives a damn about filthy Jew boy culture anyway ?

    To many people focus their energies on if Jesus did this or that. Good post... shame it will be wasted on biblical nuts.

  • Jesus Christ
    Jesus Christ

    Yeah, all that plus we were usually too busy having drunken orgies...............

  • Euphemism
    Euphemism
    You're right. I don't think I ever remember reading anything in the Bible about Jesus or his disciples knocking on a door as part of an account.

    Aside from the issue of translating some passages in Acts as "from house to house", which is a clear mistranslation (Ray Franz has good material on that in ISoCF), the only example they can point to is Jesus instructions to his disciples, in Luke 10 and parallel accounts. The WTS will quote vs 5,6, which say:

    Wherever you enter into a house say first, ?May this house have peace.? And if a friend of peace is there, your peace will rest upon him. But if there is not, it will turn back to you.

    Ironically, vs 7,8 continue:

    So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages. Do not be transferring from house to house.
    So I agree with the posts above... there's no evidence for house-to-house preaching in the first century.

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