Hello everyone, ETAN HERE again (keep on forgetting my proffiles)!!! ... A little something I wanted to share with you all and this would be on John 3:36
(Joh 3:36) He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him. Yes after reading that you now think that everyone excersising faither in Jesus will be saved and anyone that disobaying will die of God's wrath.I personally do not think that that is what this scripture is trying to portray. I have done some research and one word that ussually tips me off is the Witnesses translation where they add 'exercises' to the scripture but somehow forget to add the brackets arround it to tell us they like to add words to the bible. Another tip is; well 'God is Love', and I don't see how this is loving to kill people because they are stupid and blind at times. So I did some more research on this scripture.......
As I was looking into the word 'believes' in the KJ version of the same scripture finding the greek word and then finding some comment on it this one seemed more appropreate for this verse.....
According to the conception of christian faith christ alone is the author of salvation, rejecting all the various things which aside from Christ are commended as means of salvation(abstaining from flesh, wine), and understands that all things are lawful to him which do not lead him away from Christ
Then I looked up what the Jehovah's Witnesses printed on this scripture and the cross refferences they used.
watchtower of 1999 4/15 13-14
Meeting God?s Requirements19 Would you expect to receive God?s grand gift of everlasting life in Paradise without any effort on your part? Is it not reasonable that God would require something? Surely it is. God does not, in effect, just throw the gift at us. He extends it to us, but we must reach out and take it. Yes, effort is involved. You may ask the very question that the rich young ruler asked Jesus: "What good must I do in order to get everlasting life?" Or you may frame the question the way a Philippian jailer did to the apostle Paul: "What must I do to get saved?"?Matthew 19:16; Acts 16:30.
20 On the night before his death, Jesus showed a basic requirement when he said in prayer to his heavenly Father: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3) Is it not a reasonable requirement that we take in knowledge of Jehovah, who made everlasting life possible, and knowledge of the one who died for us, Jesus Christ? Yet, more is required than simply taking in such knowledge.
21 The Bible also says: "He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life." Then it adds: "He that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." (John 3:36) You can show that you are exercising faith in the Son by making changes in your life and bringing it into harmony with God?s will. You must reject any wrong course that you may have been following and take action to do what is pleasing to God. You need to do what the apostle Peter commanded: "Repent, therefore, and turn around so as to get your sins blotted out, that seasons of refreshing may come from the person of Jehovah."?Acts 3:19.
22 May we never forget that it is only by exercising faith in Jesus that we can enjoy everlasting life. (John 6:40; 14:6) We show that we exercise faith in Jesus by ?following in his steps closely.? (1 Peter 2:21) What is included in doing that? Well, in prayer to God, Jesus exclaimed: "Look! I am come . . . to do your will, O God." (Hebrews 10:7) It is vital to imitate Jesus in agreeing to do God?s will and dedicating your life to Jehovah. Afterward you need to symbolize that dedication by water baptism; Jesus too presented himself for baptism. (Luke 3:21, 22) Taking such steps is completely reasonable. The apostle Paul noted that "the love the Christ has compels us." (2 Corinthians 5:14, 15) In what way? Well, love moved Jesus to give his life in our behalf. Should that not compel us to respond by exercising faith in him? Yes, it should compel us to follow his loving example of giving of himself in helping others. Christ lived for doing the will of God; we must do likewise, no longer living for oursel ves.
23 That is not the end of the matter. The Bible says that when 3,000 were baptized at Pentecost 33 C.E., they "were added." Added to what? "They continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles and to sharing with one another," Luke explains. (Acts 2:41, 42) Yes, they met together for Bible study and association and thus were added to, or became a part of, the Christian congregation. Early Christians regularly attended meetings for spiritual instruction. (Hebrews 10:25) Jehovah?s Witnesses to day also do this, and they would like to encourage you to attend these meetings with them.
24 Millions now are following the cramped road leading to life. Staying on this cramped road takes real effort! (Matthew 7:13, 14) Paul indicated this in his warmhearted appeal: "Fight the fine fight of the faith, get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called." Putting up this fight is needed to "get a firm hold on the real life." (1 Timothy 6:12, 19) That life is not the present life of aches and pains and suffering brought upon us by Adam?s sin. Rather, it is life in God?s new world, which will soon be realized when Christ?s ransom sacrifice is applied in behalf of all lovers of Jehovah God and his Son after this system of things is removed. May all of us choose life?"the real life"?everlasting life in God?s glorious new world.
watchtower of 1989 9/15 6-7
Requirements for SalvationSo, then, what is required for salvation? The prime requirement is the one that the apostle Paul stated to the Philippian jailer: "Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will get saved." (Acts 16:31) Heartfelt acceptance of the shed blood of Jesus is essential if we are going to be saved. And what will salvation mean for us? Jesus indicated the answer when he said: "I give them everlasting life, and they will by no means ever be destroyed." (John 10:28) For most, salvation will mean everlasting life on an earth restored to paradisaic perfection. (Psalm 37:10, 11; Revelation 21:3, 4) In the case of a "little flock," however, it will mean ruling with Jesus in his heavenly Kingdom.?Luke 12:32; Revelation 5:9, 10; 20:4.
Some suggest that belief in Jesus is the end of the matter. "There is just one thing that any one needs to do to get to heaven," says one religious tract. "That is, to accept Jesus Christ as his personal Saviour, surrender to Him as Lord and Master, and openly confess Him as such before the world." Thus, many believe that a sudden, emotional conversion experience is all we need in order to guarantee everlasting life. However, to concentrate on only one essential requirement for salvation to the exclusio
n of the others is like reading one crucial clause in a contract and ignoring the rest.
This becomes more evident when we listen to the comments of some who at one time thought that professing belief in Jesus was all that was needed to be saved. Bernice says: "I was raised in the Brethren Church, but I came to wonder why, if everlasting life is dependent solely on Jesus, he himself said: ?This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.?"?John 17:3.
For nine years Norman was convinced that he was saved. But then he saw that more was required than an emotional profession that Jesus Christ was his Savior. "I saw from the Bible that it was not enough just to acknowledge to God that we are sinners and in need of salvation," he says. "We also have to do works that befit repentance."?Matthew 3:8; Acts 3:19.
Yes, believing in Jesus is crucial to our salvation, but more is needed. Jesus spoke of some who professed faith in him and even did "powerful works" in his name. But he did not recognize them. Why? Because they were "workers of lawlessness" and did not do the will of his Father. (Matthew 7:15-23) The disciple James reminds us of the need to "become doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning." He also said: "You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. . . . Faith without works is dead."?James 1:22; 2:19, 26.
Some, though, argue that those who are genuinely saved do all these things anyway. But is that really the case in practice? Denis, who ?accepted Jesus? when he was a young boy, says: "The ?saved? people I have known feel no great need to examine the Scriptures because they think they already have all they need for salvation." Indeed, the hypocrisy and unchristian acts of many who claim to be saved have brought the whole subject of salvation into disrepute.
Nevertheless, many insist that the Scriptures say: "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." (John 3:36
,King James Version ) Therefore, they conclude that once you have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, you can never again be lost. "Once saved, always saved" is their watchword. But is that what the Scriptures really say? To answer this, we need to consider everything the Bible says on the subject. We would not want to ?deceive ourselves with false reasoning? by reading only selected parts of God?s Word.
"Once
Saved, Always Saved"?Notice the inspired warning of the disciple Jude. He wrote: "Beloved ones, though I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to exhort you to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones." (Jude 3) Why did Jude write this? Because he knew that individual Christians could still lose the ?salvation they hold in common.? He went on to say: "I desire to remind you . . . that Jehovah, although he saved a people [the Israelites] out of the land of Egypt, afterwards destroyed those not showing faith."?Jude 5.
Jude?s warning would be pointless if Christians did not face a danger similar to that of those Israelites. Jude was not questioning the value of Jesus? sacrifice. That sacrifice has saved us from Adamic sin, and Jesus will protect those who exercise faith in him. No one can snatch them out of his hand. But we can lose that protection. How? By doing what was done by many Israelites who were saved from Egypt. We can deliberately choose to disobey God.?Deuteronomy 30:19, 20.
Imagine being rescued from a burning tower. Think of the relief you would feel as you were safely taken from the building and the rescuer said: "You are safe now." Yes, you would have been saved from certain death. But what would happen if you decided to go back into the building for some foolish reason? Your life would again be in danger.
Christians are in a saved condition. They have the prospect of everlasting life because they are in an approved position before God. As a group, their salvation from Adamic sin and all its consequences is sure. But individually they will be saved to eternal life only if they continue to adhere to all of God?s requirements. Jesus emphasized this when he likened himself to a vine and his disciples to branches in that vine. He said: "Every branch in me not bearing fruit [God] takes away . . . If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is cast out as a branch and is dried up; and men gather those branches up and pitch them into the fire and they are burned." (John 15:2, 6; Hebrews 6:4-6) Those losing faith in Jesus also lose everlasting life.
"He
That Has Endured . . . Will Be Saved"Yes, there are various things involved in getting saved. We must take in accurate knowledge of God?s purposes and his way of salvation. Then we must exercise faith in the Chief Agent of salvation, Jesus Christ, and do God?s will the rest of our lives. (John 3:16; Titus 2:14) Salvation is sure for those who follow this course. But it involves persevering right to the end of our present life or of this system of things. Only "he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved."?Matthew 24:13.
Along with others in his household, the jailer in Philippi responded positively to the message of salvation that Paul and Silas preached. "One and all, he and his were baptized without delay." (Acts 16:33) We can take similar positive action. Thus, we will enter into a close and blessed relationship with Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ, and can have complete confidence in divine provisions for salvation. The Philippian jailer "rejoiced greatly with all his household now that he had believed God." (Acts 16:34) Such a course will also cause us to ?rejoice greatly.?
I thought it was very funny about their title being 'Meeting gods requirements' and found their uses of refferences straingely amusing as well....
If God is love then why not just teach love? Wouldn't that be easier than telling people what they should do or what they are not doing. But its sad because I'm affraid the idea of love has been errased by their hardheartedness just like the scribes and pharasies. Even to the point of dissfellowshipping where that is no longer a loving thing to do, I know what it is like and it is NOT loving.
I believe that it is Jesus that we must 'believe' in and even though in the past people have used laws to prove themselves righteous, we now have Jesus and his undeserved kindness to us all and once we accnollege that we will see life in our future.
John 3:36 KJ He that believes on the Son has life eternal; and he that is not subject to the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
... It is the people believing in Jesus that those people see themselves living life in the future; people who do not recognize Jesus do not see that future resurection of life but believe this is the only chance at life they have and are thus subject to god's wrath because of not believing; Not that they disobey or do not exersice faith, they just don't see it because they don't see LOVE. Because not even Jehovah's Witnesses show a simple term of Love. Don't believe me? wait till your disfellowshipped and ask yourself if this is the kind of love you want.
Oh and as for Acts 16:33 they forgot to start at the top with Acts 16:30
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And he brought them outside and said: "Sirs, what must I do to get saved?" 31 They said: "Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will get saved, you and your household." 32 And they spoke the word of Jehovah to him together with all those in his house. 33 And he took them along in that hour of the night and bathed their stripes; and, one and all, he and his were baptized without delay. 34 And he brought them into his house and set a table before them, and he rejoiced greatly with all his household now that he had believed God.Oh and good luck asking an elder to baptize you in the middle of the night too
And Mat 24:12,13
12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.Because there are so many wicked people JWs have to talk to and also disffellowship out of their congregations that they really have lost touch of what love is. In fact the greater number of witneeses I'd say has cooled off their love for me; but thats only cause they don't talk to me anymore, yeah they must really love me huh
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