1925 versus 1975

by Sour Grapes 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Sour Grapes
    Sour Grapes

    In the early 1970's I was an elder who was convinced by the other elders in the congregation that Armageddon was coming by the end of 1975. At that time, as an elder, I knew that in the early 1920's the witnesses thought that in 1925 Christendom would be destroyed and the faithful men of old, Abraham, Isaac, Noah, etc., would be resurrected to earth. I knew those were failed prophecies yet it did not bother me. As I ponder why it didn't shake my faith, I must have given the Borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter.

    I am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies. No big deal, That was over 40 years ago. Only those who are now in their late 60's and 70's will think about what is going on and not dare say a word to anyone since now the Borg confirmed it didn't happen. No one wants to be marked in the congregation as being a trouble maker especially with emphasis on shunning and not associating with the spiritually weak.

    Sour Grapes

  • ttdtt
    ttdtt

    You are right.

    The old ones are to invested to change now - and the majority of ones who came in in the last 20 years have no idea about it.

  • waton
    waton

    I think there was a far greater exodus %wise in the 1925 aftermath ( hindsight math calculation) than in 1975, fewer were left inside to actually remember, and those were of the kind not to think, and enjoy the ride for whatever reason (feelings) . !925 predictions were also much more detailed and deluded, and false. 1975 had a calculation to base it on, but 1925?

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    It was the failed 1925 date that had Judge Rutherford say the truest words he had ever uttered in his life, "I made an ass of myself."

    Indeed.

  • David_Jay
    David_Jay
    As I ponder why it didn't shake my faith, I must have given the Borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter. I am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies. No big deal...

    Of course that will happen. That's how humans are wired.

    Under normal circumstances this is an important, innate reflex of consciousness. Since what we are is based on what we perceive to be our place in the world around us, certain "facts" have to stay in place.

    One of the reasons this is has to do with simple daily processing. Once we learn that fire is "hot," we will never touch it twice. But can you imagine what life would be like if we either forgot this fact immediately or always second-guessed ourselves? Always having to learn and re-learn that fire is "hot" and trust your belief in this fact will result in lots of burns and a very slow learning process. People could not survive.

    We rely on our belief system to build upon so we can function normally and go forward in life. We don't have to learn about gravity again and again. We learn to trust it, to never second guess it. We know our next foot is going to hit the floor next time we take a step because we have already been over the whole "what goes up must come down" thing. If we always second-guessed this, we could never learn to walk.

    But the system can be abused, as we all know. We can be given false information and build upon it. That's what the illustration of "building a house of cards" is all about. We can build an intricate belief system and "put all our eggs in one basket" based on this, but if there is no real foundation or our building materials are just "cards," it will all come tumbling down.

    No one wants their "house of cards" to fall. In fact, no one wants to believe they live in a "house of cards." Who could function that way? Everything you believe about yourself, your world around you, and those you love is based on what you have come to trust to be so.

    This is why when something like a tornado or terrorist attack erases parts of your world that you thought would always be there, this is why some people stand in shock and utter: "I can't believe it." They actually can't.

    When push comes to shove, and your belief system gets threatened, that innate mental response system goes into action and tells you: don't mistrust yourself and keep on going forward. Keep walking, gravity will still be there. It will say to you: You don't have to test fire again as it will burn you. And if you are a member of a cult built upon lies and someone tries to prove it right before you, the same system will say: Don't believe anything they tell or show you. You know that you have the truth.

    So no, this latest "admission" will not change anyone who identifies as a "Jehovah's Witness." That's who they are: Your husband or wife loves you because you are a Witness. Your children came about due to that love of two Jehovah's Witnesses. You have the great job you do because your boss is an elder in the congregation and naturally trusts you because you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

    But if suddenly you aren't a "Jehovah's Witness," what then? If the world isn't coming to an end, now what? If this religion you are in and have invested everything you have into is just a "house of cards," what does that mean about your understanding of reality?

    "I can't think about that now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about that tomorrow."--Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With the Wind by Margaret Mitchell.
  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    @ Sour Grapes

    My thoughts exactly and I just can't think about it because the idea of having the life I lived through back then as a result of the JW's, dismissed as if it never happened, is just too much to bear.

  • jaydee
    jaydee
    BELIEF PERSEVERANCE
    Definition
    People tend to hold on to their beliefs even when it appears that they shouldn't. Belief perseverance is the tendency to cling to one's initial belief even after receiving new information that contradicts or dis- confirms the basis of that belief. Everyone has tried to change someone's belief, only to have them stubbornly remain unchanged. For example, you may have had such debates concerning the death penalty, vs abortion, or evolution.


  • Sour Grapes
    Sour Grapes

    If the Witlesses accepted the over lapping generation, which heaved the Great Tribulation another 20 to 40 years into the future, the 1975 video will be yawned at. Not being thinkers, they still think that the end is just around the corner even though the Gibbering Body moved the goal posts.

    The Witlesses really don't believe the end is so close. If they did they would be out day and night warning the world and not standing by their carts sipping lattes in the shade a half a block away from the carts as they rack up the hours in field service.

    Sour Grapes

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