Kingdom Hall science.

by DATA-DOG 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    My wife is listening in today. I hear the speaker talking about "godless" people. They have not made a thorough investigation about creationism vs evolution. 

    Then the speaker starts talking about science. Evolutionists say the Big Bang just happened and then mutated/evolved. Energy came from a source, blah, blah.  All the other planets exist as a shield for us. LOL!! So the universe is just a gigantic filter for life on this planet.....

    Wow, God can't protect a lone planet in the middle of nowhere?? He supposedly made the sun, but he can't beat and protect the Earth without a sun? Hmmm. I can hear the head-bobbing from here!!

    I'm agnostic at this point in my journey. Could some sentient being have created all life? Sure, I can't disprove it. If God exists, then he is either not using the WTBTS, or he has some intricate plan that I will never understand. Maybe when I die, but then why bother worrying about it now? 

    You would think that God could send me an Instagram or something.. LOL!!

    When you hear dubs start talking science, do you cringe??

  • FayeDunaway
    FayeDunaway
    Yes I cringe. I don't think the bible was trying to be scientific, everything in genesis is for a human perspective. I believe in God, I also believe in the Big Bang, evolution...I believe God used these things. it's like he set it into motion, and then stepped back for a long time, decided dinosaurs had gotten too large and decided to just keep the small ones that tweet nice. Other planets, they are part of the Big Bang. I took astronomy at the junior college when I was still a witness. Had many arguments with my parents and even other witnesses. It was back when astronomists suspected other planets but hadnt found any yet. Had just noticed gravitational wobbles in certain stars. Witnesses I told said 'no, that's ridiculous, there aren't any other planets!!' They will deny anything until there are pictures. And even then. My father hardly believes in dinosaurs. Even though they've found full skeletons. They might as well be flat Earthers, really.
  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    When you hear dubs start talking science, do you cringe??

    Of course. The longer I was in, the more flaws I found in their reasoning.

    Did he use the watch analogy? I rewrote it in my mind this way...

    A creationist and an atheist are walking down the street and see a watch on the ground. The creationist seizes the opportunity to say, "As an atheist, you must believe that this watch had no designer and builder, It just came together as pure chance."

    The atheist responds, "No. It's clearly noted on the face of the watch that it came from the factory on the other side of town."

    "Ah ha! So you have to admit that just like that watch which was created in a factory, everything has to have a creator--God!"

    The atheist asks, "So God is just like that watch factory?"

    "Exactly!" replies the creationist.

    The atheist responds, "My father was part of a team that designed and constructed that watch factory."

    The creation responds, "LIAR! That watch factory has existed forever and ever and didn't ever need a creator!" The creationist runs away crying and covering his ears at the blasphemy!

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Wobbles! Yes, that is a fascinating subject! I watched a professor on NETFLIX discussing the probability of other habitable planets. He talked about wobbling. It was very cool. Then I fell asleep. 


    DD

  • Ignoranceisbliss
    Ignoranceisbliss
    Billy.      Love it!     I'm gonna remember that one. 
  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    I cringe when they say that the bible "said "the earth was not flat" all because of the scripture about "the circle of the earth"

    Seriously!?  I mean, a Circle is NOT a Sphere!...A dinner plate is "a circle"...yet it is flat!

    So they CANT say decisively that the bible meant a sphere.....it may have been written by Flat- Earthers who thought it was like a dinner plate! 

  • Bungi Bill
    Bungi Bill

    "Pseudo-science" I would call it, and the list goes on and on. For example, that 1967 magazine (can't remember if it was Watchtower or Awake - one of their propaganda sheets, anyway) that made the claim that men were better suited for headship than women because their brain sizes were larger. That's what they said!

    Bill.


  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Energy from what source?  And why would joke-hova wait until 15 billion (why 15 billion and not 666 billion?) years ago and create a big bang?  And why is the universe stated at 15 billion (again, why not 666 billion) light years across?  To me, putting any limit on it is offensive--it is infinite.

    Or, did they use numerology to place us under the influence of Saturn?  The numerology of Saturn is 15--adding up to 6.  The number 66 is also a Saturnian influence, and that is how many books are in the LIE-ble.  The Quran is no better, with 114 chapters (again, the digits add up to 6).  By focusing on this finite number, they put limits on our development while tying us to negative Saturn influence.  Of note, they avoid the number of the Sun, 666, like the plague.

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    Well I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Every time the WT talked science I was duped and sucked in. Now I cringe at the thought of it and the thought I taught my kids such nonsense.

    Kate xx

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Data-Dog - "When you hear dubs start talking science, do you cringe?"

    More and more, the older I got.

    It got rather depressing, as a matter of fact.

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