BLONDIE’S COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE MARCH 19, 2017 WT Study (JANUARY 2017)
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OPENING COMMENTS
When I was growing up, the WTS had a series of study articles on modesty and how
Jehovah was not modest and it is still WTS thinking. So the WTS is applying to his creations, in this case humans…men…elders in the WTS organization. The “appointed” representatives of the WTS must be falling extremely short for the WTS to expose problems within and it serves as an open warning to these representatives. Evidently…private chastisements in elder school and letters and CO reprimands have not been working.
Book: Close to Jehovah p. 201-202
Modesty, as used in the Scriptures, suggests a proper awareness of one’s own limitations. The Almighty has no limitations except for those he imposes upon himself because of his own righteous standards. (Mark 10:27; Titus 1:2) Furthermore, as the Most High, he is subject to no one. So the concept of immodesty simply does not apply to Jehovah.
THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) JANUARY 2017
Why Modesty Still Matters
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Why Modesty Still Matters
“Wisdom is with the modest ones.”—PROV. 11:2.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN?
Why is modesty important?
How is modesty related to humility?
How can we flourish in our assigned place?
1, 2. Why was a once modest man rejected by God? (See opening picture.)
KING SAUL of ancient Israel began his reign as a modest and respected man. (1 Sam. 9:1, 2, 21; 10:20-24) But soon after he became king, he carried out a series of presumptuous acts. When God’s prophet Samuel did not show up in Gilgal at the appointed time, Saul became impatient. The Philistines were preparing for battle, and the Israelites were deserting Saul. He must have thought, ‘I have to do something—and quickly.’ So he offered up a sacrifice to God, which he was not authorized to do. Jehovah was not pleased.—1 Sam. 13:5-9.
COMMENTS
Wasn’t David presumptuous to take another man’s wife and then having him killed to cover up that capital crime under the Law?
Does Jehovah = the GB?
2 When Samuel arrived in Gilgal, he rebuked Saul. Instead of accepting the correction, Saul made excuses, tried to shift the blame, and minimized what he had done. (1 Sam. 13:10-14) That started a terrible chain of events that eventually cost Saul his kingship and, more important, Jehovah’s approval. (1 Sam. 15:22, 23) Despite a promising beginning, Saul’s life ended in complete disaster.—1 Sam. 31:1-6.
COMMENTS
3. (a) What do many people think about modesty? (b) What questions need to be answered?
3 In today’s competitive world, many feel that they have to stand out from the crowd in order to get ahead. In doing so, they may sacrifice all modesty. For example, a well-known movie star, turned politician, once said: “Modesty is not a word that applies to me in any way—I hope it never will.” Why, though, does modesty still matter? What is modesty, and what is it not? And how can we remain modest despite challenging situations or pressure from others? In this article, we will answer the first two questions. The third question will be addressed in the following article.
COMMENTS
Who was that movie star and why does the WTS name them in the quotation?
I knew I was a winner back in the late sixties. I knew I was destined for great things. People will say that kind of thinking is totally immodest. I agree. Modesty is not a word that applies to me in any way - I hope it never will.
He wishes he could take it back…..why not mention that too?
http://www.salon.com/2011/05/17/schwarzenegger_quotes/
WHY IS MODESTY IMPORTANT?
4. How would you define a presumptuous act?
4 The Bible contrasts modesty with presumptuousness. (Read Proverbs 11:2.) Wisely, David asked Jehovah to “hold [him] back from presumptuous acts.” (Ps. 19:13) What are “presumptuous acts”? By definition, when someone rashly or impertinently does something that he is not authorized to do, he is acting presumptuously. Because of inherited sin, we all act presumptuously at times. But as King Saul’s example illustrates, if we develop a pattern of pushing ahead, sooner or later we will find ourselves in serious trouble with God. Psalm 119:21 says of Jehovah: “You rebuke the presumptuous.” Why is that?
COMMENTS
OT example DAVID, are adultery and murder presumptuous acts?
Look back in paragraph 4: By definition, when someone rashly or impertinently does something that he is not authorized to do, he is acting presumptuously.
5. Why are presumptuous acts serious?
5 Presumptuous acts are more serious than innocent mistakes. First, when we act immodestly, we fail to honor Jehovah as our rightful Sovereign. Second, if we act beyond the scope of our authority, we are likely to get into conflict with others. (Prov. 13:10) And third, when it becomes clear that we have acted presumptuously, we may be embarrassed or even humiliated. (Luke 14:8, 9) Presumptuous acts do not turn out well. As the Scriptures show, modesty is always the right course.
COMMENTS
Note also what the WTS says in paragraph 5:
Presumptuous acts are more serious than innocent mistakes.
-----------Fail to honor god or the WTS.
-----------Beyond the scope of our authority – as assigned through the WTS
-----------Conflict with others, jws higher up on the authority chart
-----------we (the WTS defined presumptuous individual will be embarrassed (removed as MS/elder or humiliated (disfellowshipped or deemed having disassociated themselves from the WTS by acting presumptuously against the WTS)
WHAT DOES MODESTY INVOLVE?
6, 7. What is humility, and how is modesty related to it?
6 Modesty and humility are closely linked traits. In the Bible, humility refers to being free from pride or arrogance. It is described as “lowliness of mind.” (Phil. 2:3, ftn.) A humble person is generally also a modest person, able to estimate accurately his own abilities and achievements, to acknowledge his mistakes, and to accept suggestions and new ideas. Humility greatly pleases Jehovah.
COMMENTS
Note in my Opening Comments, the WTS does not consider modesty and humility the same. God cannot be modest because he has no limitations except those that are self-imposed.
Do elders, CO, DO, ZO, GB helpers, or GB,acknowledge their mistakes openly to the other members of the WTS or are they swept under the rug and if others reveal them, those people are considered presumptuous. Do they accept suggestions and ideas from other jws even if they are below them in the authority ranking? What would have happened if David had not been presumptuous and had listened to his friend and not have taken the census…70,000 innocent Israelites would have lived a lot longer.
7 In the Bible, modesty similarly refers to having a proper estimate of ourselves and an awareness of our limitations. In the original language of the text, the emphasis seems to be on how that awareness should affect our behavior toward others.
COMMENTS
What is the WTS definition of “having a proper estimate of ourselves and an awareness of our limitations”? Doesn’t that imply that the individual is making the estimate, not others?
8. What are some warning signs of immodest thinking or behavior?
8 When might we start to think or act immodestly? Consider a few of the warning signs. We might be taking ourselves or our privileges too seriously. (Rom. 12:16) We might be drawing attention to ourselves in inappropriate ways. (1 Tim. 2:9, 10) Or we might be advocating strong opinions solely on the basis of our position, connections, or personal thinking. (1 Cor. 4:6) Often, when we act like this, we may not even be aware that we have crossed the line from modesty to presumptuousness.
COMMENTS
Taking ourselves or our “privileges” too seriously
Drawing attention to ourselves in inappropriate ways (what are appropriate ways?)
Advocating strong opinions “solely” on the basis of our position, connections, or personal thinking (have you seen that happen? I have)
Not even be aware (because they are only following the example of GB individuals)
9. What has led some to become presumptuous? Give a Bible example.
9 Anyone can act immodestly if he allows himself temporarily to be overcome by fleshly desires. Selfish ambition, envy, and uncontrolled anger have led many to presumptuous acts. Bible characters like Absalom, Uzziah, and Nebuchadnezzar succumbed to such works of the flesh and were humbled by Jehovah for their presumptuousness.—2 Sam. 15:1-6; 18:9-17; 2 Chron. 26:16-21; Dan. 5:18-21.
COMMENTS
Bible characters? Sounds like they weren’t real people to the WTS. All OT examples.
What about when David disobeyed God and took a census even ignoring the counsel of a good and wise friend?
10. Why should we avoid judging other people’s motives? Give a Bible example.
10 There are other reasons, though, why someone may act immodestly. Consider, for example, the following Bible accounts: Genesis 20:2-7 and Matthew 26:31-35. Were the seemingly presumptuous actions of Abimelech and Peter motivated by sinful desires? Or were these individuals simply unaware of all the facts, or were they caught off guard? Since we cannot read hearts, it is both wise and loving to avoid jumping to conclusions about other people’s motives.—Read James 4:12.
COMMENTS
Jws are judging people’s motives all the time, not assessing known actions. How many of them know all the facts? “Don’t confuse us with the facts.”
WE cannot read hearts; that includes everybody in the WTS including the GB.
That only works one way in the WTS, the GB and its representatives can discern motives but the rank and file cannot discern theirs.
ACKNOWLEDGING OUR PLACE
11. How is modesty related to acknowledging our place in God’s arrangement?
11 Modesty really starts with acknowledging our place in God’s arrangement. As a God of order, Jehovah gives each one of us a place or sphere of operation in his household. Everyone’s role in the congregation is unique, but all of us are needed. In his undeserved kindness, Jehovah has given each of us certain gifts, assets, abilities, or talents. We can use them to glorify him and to benefit others. (Rom. 12:4-8) Jehovah has entrusted us with a stewardship that comes with honor, trust, and responsibility.—Read 1 Peter 4:10.
COMMENTS
Notice that women do not play a part in this article. They are no real “privileges” or authority. They only ones lower than women are female children. Even unbaptized men are given responsibilities before women ever will be on earth anyway.
Does unique mean valued?
What can we learn from Jesus’ example when we receive a change of assignment? (See paragraphs 12-14)
12, 13. Why should we not be surprised if our place in God’s arrangement changes from time to time?
12 Our place in God’s arrangement is not fixed, however. It can change over time. Consider Jesus’ example. Initially, he was alone with Jehovah. (Prov. 8:22) Then he helped make other spirit creatures, the material universe, and finally, humans. (Col. 1:16) Still later, Jesus took on a new role on earth, first as a helpless baby and then as an adult. (Phil. 2:7) After his sacrificial death, Jesus returned to heavenly spirit life to become the King of God’s Kingdom in 1914. (Heb. 2:9) And that will not be his last change of assignment. After his Thousand Year Reign, Jesus will hand over his Kingdom to Jehovah so that “God may be all things to everyone.”—1 Cor. 15:28.
COMMENTS
Our place…is not fixed….so where do women fit in this. Do they get elevated from toilets to vacuuming?
Note they mentioned 1914.
13 We can likewise expect our assignments to change from time to time, often because of decisions we make. For example, were you single, but then you got married? Have you begun raising children? In your later years, have you simplified your life to take up the full-time ministry? Each of those decisions came with certain privileges and responsibilities. Our changing circumstances can expand or limit our sphere of operation. Are you young or up in years? Is your health good or fragile? Jehovah always considers how each of us might best be used in his service. He only expects from us what is reasonable, and he greatly appreciates whatever we do.—Heb. 6:10.
COMMENTS
Single, married, raising (not having) children, retired/pioneering….male assignments
Circumstances limit our sphere of operation---born female very limiting but anointed female jws have the hope of being kings and priests alongside Jesus with the male anointed jws.
Does god decide how where are best used or the GB and its appointed representatives?
Who decides what is reasonable for you….every other member of the WTS?
14. How can a modest outlook help us to find fulfillment and keep our joy in any situation?
14 Jesus found joy in every one of his assignments, and we can find joy in ours. (Prov. 8:30, 31) A modest person does not feel cramped by his current assignments or responsibilities in the congregation. He does not worry about gaining future privileges or about what others are achieving. Instead, he focuses his energies on finding purpose and enjoyment in his present role because he views it as coming from Jehovah. At the same time, he sincerely respects the role or place that Jehovah has given to others. Modesty helps us to enjoy giving others due honor and support.—Rom. 12:10.
COMMENTS
Naughty, naughty, jws are not finding joy in their assignments and are coveting that of others.
Feeling cramped, brothers? Making friends for yourselves with unrighteous riches?
Luke 14:9
9 “Also, I say to you: Make friends for yourselves by means of the unrighteous riches,+ so that when such fail, they may receive you into the everlasting dwelling places.+
Are you supporting the other elders in your congregation, are they supporting you?
WHAT MODESTY IS NOT
15. What can we learn from Gideon’s modesty?
15 Gideon is an excellent example of modesty in action. When Jehovah’s angel first appeared to him, Gideon readily acknowledged his modest background and credentials. (Judg. 6:15) After he accepted Jehovah’s assignment, Gideon made sure that he thoroughly understood what was required, and he looked to Jehovah for guidance. (Judg. 6:36-40) Gideon was bold and courageous. Yet, he acted with caution and shrewdness. (Judg. 6:11, 27) He did not seize upon his assignment to gain prominence. Rather, as soon as he could, he gladly returned to his former place.—Judg. 8:22, 23, 29.
COMMENTS
OT GIDEON: Modesty in action….so when was the last time an angel appeared to the brothers including GB? Did Gideon consult with the priests or that angel? And how many GB would gladly return to be new boy when they go to heaven as they teach?
16, 17. What does a modest person take into consideration when thinking about making spiritual progress?
16 Being modest does not mean that we should never reach out for or accept additional privileges of service. The Scriptures encourage all of us to make advancement. (1 Tim. 4:13-15) Does this always require a change of assignment though? Not necessarily. With Jehovah’s blessing, we can make spiritual progress in whatever role we are currently serving. We can continue to cultivate our God-given abilities and expand in doing good works.
COMMENTS
Modest person…male jw…do they every admit they have limitations? Women are not included in this article…what additional privileges of service do they have except to preach and teach people the truths of the bible, held in low esteem by most men except for when they need to show 10 hours on the time slips.
17 Before accepting a new assignment, a modest person will first find out what will be required of him. He can then make an honest evaluation of his circumstances. For example, will he be able to take on more work or responsibility without neglecting other important things? Can some of his current work be delegated to make room for the new responsibility? If the answer to one or both of these questions is no, perhaps there is someone else who might be in a better position to care for the assignment right now. A prayerful and realistic analysis will help us to avoid overreaching our current abilities and limitations. Modesty may lead us to say no.
COMMENTS
Be assured that those requirements will not be equally applied in every congregation (nepotism, making friends with riches, etc.)
Other important things (lesser liked responsibilities, family)
Delegate lesser liked to brothers eager to MOVE UP, and keep them hanging for 10 years without any change
Someone better to care for---YOUNGER brothers, get rid of the old ones, I remember when they would give an old elder a non-position, one slept at all the meetings)
Overreaching, how is that possible when so many men in the congregation are judging your abilities and making the appointment?
18. (a) What will modesty move us to do in a new role or assignment? (b) How does Romans 12:3 apply to a modest person?
18 When we do accept a new assignment, Gideon’s example reminds us that we cannot succeed without Jehovah’s direction and blessing. After all, we have been invited “to walk in modesty with [our] God.” (Mic. 6:8) So any time we take on new responsibilities, we need to reflect prayerfully on whatever Jehovah tells us through his Word and his organization. We have to learn to adjust our unsteady steps to match Jehovah’s steady lead. Let us remember that it is Jehovah’s humility and not our own ability that ‘makes us great.’ (Ps. 18:35) Choosing to walk modestly with God will therefore help us to think neither too much nor too little of ourselves.—Read Romans 12:3.
COMMENTS
Cannot succeed without the organization in other words
The organization will tell you what god means in his Word.
19. For what reasons should we cultivate modesty?
19 A modest person gives Jehovah the honor he deserves, since Jehovah is our Creator and Universal Sovereign. (Rev. 4:11) Modesty helps us to be satisfied with and productive in our assigned place in God’s arrangement. Modesty restrains us from acting dishonorably, and it promotes unity among Jehovah’s people. Modesty motivates us to consider others ahead of ourselves, and it encourages us to be cautious, thus avoiding serious mistakes. For these reasons, modesty still matters to all of God’s people, and Jehovah treasures those who cultivate it. But what about when we are under pressure? The next article will show us how to remain modest in stressful situations.
COMMENTS and CONCLUDING COMMENTS
So brothers, be satisfied AND productive in your ASSIGNED place…quit causing disunity in the organization, and stop just considering yourselves and remember your serve the organization on earth….no direct angel contact for you.
Love, Blondie