ANOTHER way jWs will Violate you

by Tallyman 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    Yep.
    There are a lot of "Mary"s in the Organization who will not hestitate to violate your most private/confidential/personal information.

    A person just asked me if I had an original Watchtower which contained an article this person badly wanted... not the bound volume or CD version, but the original... and if I could provide good scans of the article.

    Once this person explained the situation, I agreed. A close relative of this person has cancer and went to an oncologist for treatment, and part of the treatment included blood transfusions. Welll, a "Mary" secretary who was in the employ of this doctor, recognized this cancer patient as a jW, and seeing that she took blood, felt like she HAD TO VIOLATE the confidentiality oath she took when the doctor employed her, and "obey god as ruler rather than men" and promptly made sure the elders became aware of this situation... and needless to say, all hell broke loose.

    Well, this person is so mad, this person is now on a mission, a campaign, to pass out copies of this Watchtower article:
    "A Time To Speak" , to every doctor's office in the vicinity to make sure they are aware of what their jehovahWitness employees will do to them, if they feel the need, or the command.

    Some here on the DB, might want to make their own copies.

    Well, here y'all go.
    I made them as good a quality as able.
    They are uncompressed .jpg images to approx. 8.5 x 11 inch page size.
    Here is the address for the pages of the Watchtower article:

    * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/Violate.html

    These pages are large, uncompressed .jpg files and are
    295KB, 273KB, 299KB, 313KB, 302KB, 226KB, respectively.

    Long download time unless you have fast connection.

    .
    (an edit to let y'all know, I'll leave the .jpg files up for 24 hours
    and then I'll have to take them down as I need the space on my site)
    .

  • nelly136
    nelly136

    has the person involved lodged a complaint with the doctor and/or taken legal advice yet? over here we have a medical association or patients charter that outlines patients rights and who to complain to
    perhaps the person would like to write to magazines and sites that are specifically distributed or visited by the medical profession
    nelly

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    nelly,

    "Yes" to all your questions, above.

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  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    I hate to see a (mostly) innocent doctor take the heat for something like this.

    But, what do we always say? You have to grind and mash up a few good doctors to make blood sausage to put in your ommlette. Something like that.

    Is this really an angle in the good fight? Or just wishful thinking on my part Tally? Is there possibly recourse against the doctors practice, since both the medical AND human aspects of the blood transfusion ban are well publicised in medical literature?

  • Kent
    Kent

    Thanks!

    I'm just planning writing a new article aimed at employers, and I needed the scans as documentation to the text from the CD.

    These were almost perfect. A little touch up in Photoshop, and they're perfect!

    Thanks!!!

    Yakki Da

    Kent
    Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
    http://watchtower.observer.org

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    These were almost perfect. A little touch up in Photoshop, and they're perfect!
    Thanks!!!

    Kent, we here at Talley Industries are glad to be of service to you!

    Slainte!

    TT

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    I hate to see a (mostly) innocent doctor take the heat for something like this.

    Six,
    if the doctor should get sued, it's his Insurance Company who will pay the claim. That's why doctors carry such heavy liability insurance. In a case like this - a Rat Fink jW breaching patient confidentiality - it is not a bad reflection on the doctor. The doctor's premiums may go up for a while, but that would be about the only negative fallout, plus the doc will be glad to get rid of the little fink, and will NEVER hire another jehovahWitness... so +'s all around.

    Think of all the other businesses who employ jWs would start taking a second and third look before they employ the Kultists.

    I was just emailed an article about this.
    Here's a portion:

    "Mary" in the article is a hypothetical case, but the newly enunciated policy is already making itself felt in concrete terms in the lives of Watchtower followers around the world. And it has stirred considerable controversy in the press over public concern that confidentiality will be shattered in hospitals, law offices, tax accounting firms, and other sensitive fields where Jehovah's Witnesses are employed. The Los Angeles Times (Aug. 27, 1987) devoted 28 column-inches to the subject, including quotes from a telephone interview with Watchtower headquarters spokesman William Van De Wall. According to the Times, Van De Wall said that individuals "who seek out an attorney or doctor would know if they were of the same religion. If a Witness wanted to avoid telling him something, he would seek someone else." This fails to take into consideration, though, the possibility that a J.W. secretary, typist, or clerk working for a non-Witness professional might also be in a position to leak confidential information to sect leaders.

    For example, one disgruntled Witness known to CHRISTIAN RESEARCH JOURNAL, who had been secretly purchasing Christian literature from an ex-J.W. ministry, now finds that checks he had written are being offered as evidence against him as he is called to stand trial before an internal Watchtower "judicial committee." Did a J.W. working at his local bank turn the records over to the sect? Or had the Watchtower sent a loyal follower to work at the bank where the ex-J.W. ministry's funds are kept, to keep track of who might be contributing? The victim of this breach of bank secrecy does not know who informed on him, but he does know that continued contact with life-long friends and family-and even his marriage-could be terminated depending on the outcome of the closed-door "trial" where the checks are presented as evidence.

    "The objective would not be to spy on another's freedom but to help erring ones and to keep the Christian congregation clean," the Watchtower article insists. These "erring ones," though, could include not only Witnesses receiving medical treatment for venereal disease, AIDS, or pregnancy out of wedlock, but also individuals subscribing to forbidden publications (such as CHRISTIAN RESEARCH JOURNAL), donating blood, or receiving a transfusion-all of which actions would be viewed as error threatening the "cleaness" of the J.W. congregation.

    Other information on Witness patients/clients likely to be reported by fellow Witnesses having access to records include:

    * Donating sperm or an ovum to a fertility bank.
    * Artificial insemination (which the Witnesses view as adultery).
    * Use of tobacco.
    * Contributing to the campaign fund of a political candidate.
    * Receiving income from a military or religious organization.
    * Giving birthday or Christmas gifts.
    * Receiving a speeding ticket or other fine.
    * Divorce proceedings on grounds other than adultery.
    Since the official policy of breaking professional confidentiality was promulgated only a few months ago, it is yet too soon to see lawsuits from the victims of such invasion of privacy. But some newspaper articles appearing on the subject see this as an inevitable fallout, with employers reaping potential problems from vioilations by their Jehovah's Witness employmees. Long viewed by many as exemplary workers, the Witnesses may gain a different reputation in the work place as they begin to obey their organization's new instructions to break oaths and laws protecting client/patient confidentiality.

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  • zev
    zev

    i know this from personal experience.
    my son used to work for a local store. caught a j-dup stealing and turned him into the authorities, and to the j-dub judicials. guess what? he lost his job over it. just goes to show you, even when you "think" its the right thing to do, it isn't always the case. should have kept quiet, let it go to the papers and let the borg drones see it there. live and learn.

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    zev
    Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.

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