by got my forty homey? 9 Replies latest jw friends
1. Is it possible to worship Jehovah without a earthly organization, just on your own?
2. If Jesus came to earth today would the WT Society make him get baptized and then df him for apostacy?
I was just wondering this because I received a book yesterday from my parents called "Draw close to Jehovah" I skimmed through this book and found nothing new, same old rhetoric from the 80's. And I found the book cheaply made and its not even a hard cover!
surely if you believe in a jehovah it is perfecly plausable to worship on your own, however the thing jw's quote is 'do not forsake the gathering together of yourselves' but even discussion on this forum is gathering together, and meeting and sharing ideas with others who have as similar belief is also gathering together, it's just jw's who insist that it's only officially 'gathering together' when it's one of their specified meetings.
if jesus came to earth today the wt society ask him for id, when they saw he didn't have any they would nail him to a tree and take pictures and backdate them just to prove that he didn't die on a cross, then they would sing in unison, he died upon a tree, to set all mankind free, blah blah blah...
Abel, Noah, Job, Abraham worshiped God without an earthly organization.
If Jesus came to earth today in the flesh, the WTS would reject him just as the Pharisees did. If he appeared visibly in heaven with the angels, I think a few would soil their undergarments knowing the jig was up.
Blondie
Isn't there a scripture that says 'wherever a few gather together in my name......'. Surely this means you don't have to part of an earthly organisation, but just have to meet up.
all the books are softbound now.. they began that when they started the donation process.. over time all new books are made that way. That book you received was the release from last year's DC.
1. Yes, absolutely!
2. Jesus Christ couldn't even qualify for baptism according to the unscriptural WTS criteria for baptism today. But if somehow, he managed to pull the wool over their eyes and get baptised, they'd surely df Jesus for calling the Gov. Haughty the "Hypocrites and white-washed graves!" they surely are!
Frannie B
Shame they sold off Beth Sarim... They'll have to put him up in a condo in the DUMBO neighbourhood.
Either that, or at Bethel they would have him cleaning toilets to keep him humble.
1. The worship of God through Jesus does not need an organization. There is a danger when praise and or worship that should be directed to God becomes shared with an organization. That is idolatry.
The approach to God is through Jesus not through a secondary mediator.
An organization can serve a purpose, bringing together people of various talents and abilities but can become a dangerous thing if gone unchecked. The organization can become the end rather a means to an end.
We should seek fellowship with other Christians (coming to this forum is one way). Matt 18:20 says "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst." (Hi JC)
But the gathering or group ought to serve Christians not insert itself between fellow Christians and Christ.
2. Jesus Christ would not submit himself to a ritual that puts an organization on the same level as himself and his father. They would not baptize him unless he agreed to answer YES to their silly questions.
Also, why would the JWs say they are the "only" Christians to associate with? Rather selective in their thinking, for Jesus said "whoever is not against us is for us," chiding the apostles for trying to copyright the ability to cast out demons and cure lepers and whatnot. People are going to be Christians each according to their geographic area of the big beach-ball we call the world and each in their little denominations and little customs, but in the face of Jesus' example none are so narrow-minded as saying you have to join THIS group, based in Babylon-on-the-Hudson of all places, and do things just their way and no other.
the same question could be asked of all of Christianity! How many would do as the pharasees and take the prophetic scriptures literally about "coming on a cloud" and miss the event entirely?
carmel
