What happens within the JW organisation?

Sir cid fatos

Hey guys

I don't know if you guys all know (depends how big this website is) that I have some JW friends. I'm interested in their belief (luckily no desire to belief it :p) because it's kind of a mystery what REALLY happens in a JW organisation. So I have 2 questions for ex-JW's:

- What are the things that happen in a JW org.?

- What are your personal experiences (if you want to tell)?

Thanks a lot, i just want to hear the truth and not speculations on the internet and friends.

MissFit

Hi. Welcome. Those are very broad questions.

The best thing for you would be to poke check out some of the posts here. There are many experiences here that will give you an idea.

What I like to do is click on to a poster and check out their previous posts.

Stick around and "listen" in.

If you have a specific question, feel free to ask.

Sir cid fatos

Missfit

Hey, thank you for your response and putting some time in it :). Well yeah that's true but i take the easy way out. One question that comes up to my mind is: My friends (non-JW) say if somebody was een JW before and he leaves the organisation his family will never visit them.

But I asked some JW friends about it: they didn't respond clearly and said, if someone was a bad example would you still visit him. That depends on the situation actually but it's very different when somebody uses drugs or just leaves his faith

_Morpheus

Lol double speak at its finest. If someone is disfellowshipped, for any reason, current org policy is to shun them, period.

The Searcher

Welcome.

My wife and I are Witnesses (in name only now) who are fading fast.

Witnesses are forbidden from openly discussing with other Witnesses any Bible points which show the Org's teachings in a bad light! Failure to keep your mouth shut, will result in being branded an apostate, dis-fellowshipped, and cut off from all contact by family and friends.

What a loving, and truthful little cult to join, eh?

freemindfade

They didn't respond clearly because that is a trick. fading like a lot of us are these days kind of allows you to back away from it. You still aren't out. But greatly reduced your involvement or completely left it all together. But on the books you are a jw. Now if you tell them you are leaving. Or commit what they consider a disfellowshipping offense (Such as reading anything on this site or talking to someone disfellowshipped) disfellowshipped or disassociated are what you speak of and yes. You are out and shunned by family and closest friends, treated as if you died and don't exist. You will be avoided like to he plague. Amish style. More people are smarter now and more comfortable with the fade. Years ago probably most would have just disassociated themselves. I'd love to. But love some of my family and don't want to break my moms heart. So they twisted it. Ask the same question to them but instead of leave say dissfellowshipped then they have to answer truthfully . us faders live two lives in a loop hole so we never really get to leave like hotel California

wannabefree

It is a cult.

According to your previous post about playing ball with them, you see the faith and following the rules are stronger in some than in others. I assume it is similar if you were strict about your faith.

The JW's teach that they are the only truth faith and that all others are from the devil. All people not JW's are mislead and followers of the devil whether they realize it or not because there are only two options, a follower of the Almighty God (a JW) and everyone else. You are part of the everyone else, a worldly person.

JW's teach that "bad association spoils useful habits" ... the only truly good association to a JW would be other JW's in good standing, worldly people, whether good or bad are blanket condemned as bad association.

freemindfade

And to add to wannabefree's correct statements, its a bait and switch. The bait is love and positive stuff, but when you are in all the way, thats it, the cult stuff takes over. Do some research on these to models B.I.T.E if you want to know what goes on, thats a good description of what happens once you are in. Aldo F.O.G. this is the one that keeps you on a treadmill once you get in. Fear. Obligation Guilt. If these folks seem loving and are trying to recruit you its because 1. they are afraid, of what? Dying at armagedon if they don't try to recruit you, afraid of the elders coming and asking them why they aren't getting enough hours trying to recruit, afraid of being embarrassed for not trying to recruit at every opportunity and being shamed for it. Obligated to meet certain hour recruitment requirements, if you are a grown man and you don't get enough hours to have basic privileges at the Kingdom hall like passing the mice etc, its embarrassing, obviously there must be something wrong with you, and guilt. This is just more of the same, that keeps the recruitment wheels turning. about 98% of JW's do not enjoy doing this, but they have a competitive pride that will make them post on IG themselves wasting their morning in the freezing temperature doing "early morning recruiting" (worthless but racks up the hours and makes you look good), or standing by a cart in the blistering sun. The guilt makes them feel like they need to show everyone what they do and that they are the best darn witness mind control can buy!

What happens within the JW organisation?

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