by SBlackwell 4 Replies latest jw friends
I am no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses, but I can remember the excellent talks given by the above Frank Sartin, an elder and I think at one time a Zone Overseer in the Lancashire area of the UK. Upon doing some research I read that he died back in 2015.
Does anyone else remember him?
welcome to the site Xbro Blackwell.
Welcome SBlackwell.
Many brothers had the 'gift' of speaking. They could draw you in with their personalized talking style making it feel that they are just talking to you.
There were brothers I really grew to like during my formative years from 12 to 18. Brothers in arms....... that sort of thing.
But like a number of JW characteristics it was more an act or set piece. When the first insurmountable doubts began to show up in your speech or ideas or review of known history....... these buddies..... pillars of love and encouragement...... just melted away.
My wife and I pioneered where the need was great for three years. I gave talks all over the circuit, held three congregation positions (No Elders in those days).
We even helped finance a proper KH instead of the store front KH.
When we decided to leave and get some job training that was the last we heard from the congregation. It was as if we no longer existed.
Well we did just fine on our own but what we really learned was that there was no acceptance for any out of the box thinking.
My close friend for three years, the presiding minister of the congregation, went silent after we left. The time we provided a loan to save his home, the talks I gave like 30 in the first year alone, using my own dimes to make a 100 mile round trip to give a public talk. The 100 hours of service per month I gave, the bible studies and literature placement that kept the Circuit servant off his back was all for nothing relationship wise.
This was the JW way to treat ex JW's. People like us that just stopped believing, went our own way. It never mattered that the original belief system of the JW had to be subjected to constant new light.
It was about obedience not faith.
"It was about obedience not faith."
That is dead right Giordano. .Even more so so today the whole thing is about obedience to the central leadership. Faith? Yes but faith to follow not to think or reason.
My history is nowhere near as accomplished as your own but when I resigned the B of E , the others did not want to know be , although I was for a while a normal cong member.
Anyway, must not hijack SBlackwell's thread,
NB... No, I never Knew a Bro Sartin... there were some pretty good speakers around in the old days. Sadly all the individuality seems to have been knocked out of them these days
Welcome SB.
Short answer, never heard of him.
Mind you, I'm dahn sarf.
