Has anyone called Brooklyn acting as a concerned dubbie..to get their spin?

by BONEZZ 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • BONEZZ
    BONEZZ

    Kinda curious as to what the front desk is saying?

    -BONEZZ

  • dannyboy
    dannyboy

    btt

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    This story goes back about 3 or 4 weeks, so it predates the letter on the UN.org website, but it still may be informative.

    My buddy Beans has a JW colleague at work (let's call him "Dub"). Dub is the only, um, Dub in his family, he self converted in his teans or early 20s.

    Beans mentioned the UN thing to him a few weeks ago (note: Beans was "buying out the opportune time", just like Apostle Paul would have. We can all learn from Bean's excellent example; that's why he's a District Overbeer).

    Dub's initial reaction: "That's all lies, man".

    Beans indicated that proof was available on the website (including, among other sources, http://quotes.watchtower.ca/united_nations.htm) and suggested that Dub go check it out and see if it was indeed "all lies".

    After a very disturbing visit to our Quotes website, Dub TELEPHONED BETHEL CANADA to ask them if it was true. (Note, this may not be the best place to call, since it was Brooklyn Bethel, not Bethel Canada, that associated with the UN, and Bethel Canada probably has "plausible deniability" on this issue.

    After being transferred around a bit, Bethel Canada's response to Dub: "No, that's all lies, man".

    But Dub had already seen too much, and pressed the issue, and asked them to explain away some of the evidence he had seen. After a lengthy on-hold pause, the Bethelite on the phone flip-flopped, and Dub was finally (reluctantly) fed the "Library Card" excuse.

    What does this tell us?
    (1) Those at Bethel answering questions either (a) don't know or (b) will actually lie about it (Spiritual Warfare, anyone?)
    (2) Only those persistent in their enquireies will get so much as the lamo "Library Card" excuse.
    (3) It might be good to pre-empt the library card excuse by dealing with it before the Watchtower can use it. You will look like a mind-reader, able to predict the Watchtower's excuse! This will give you credibility, and give you the opportunnity to point out how truly weak that excuse is.

  • imallgrowedup
    imallgrowedup

    Great response, Quotes!

    Bonezz - perhaps we should make our next campaign to call Bethel - and inundate them to the point that they will have to make a general announcement to the R&F in order to get any work done??!!

    growedup

  • BONEZZ
    BONEZZ

    Quotes...interesting info and not too surprising. I'm thinking, maybe the calls coming in will have an effect on the grunts who are answering the phones.

    imallgrowedup...sounds like a heckava idea although they'd probably hang up on me before I got thru with them.

    -BONEZZ

  • Beans
    Beans

    I wish I had a library card, then any JW could just ask me for information without belonging to the UN, oops you don't need to be a member!

    Great response Quotes!

  • izobcenec
    izobcenec

    Someone should phone them, ask them about recent UN letter
    and TAPE it!

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