by kj 4 Replies latest jw experiences
I'm expecting a return visit from 2 nice JW ladies and I'm going to try counterwitnessing to them. I've been warned about possibly wasting my time, which I know is a possibility. I'm not afraid of them sucking me in- I know WAY too much now. So my question is- did a householder ever say anything or ask a question that made you start to have doubts? I'm not expecting to turn these women around, but just planting some doubts would be a start. Thanks everybody!
kj
Asking "Have you been born again?" always gets them in circles!
'Jesus said to him: "Most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."' - John 3:3 (NWT)
That's a good one! Thanks Ozzie!
kj
You could try a conversation like this -
"can you show me the scripture that specifically prohibits oral sex between consenting heterosexual married couples?"
Then you might ask "what is the scriptural viewpoint doing it 'doggie-style' between consenting heterosexual married couples (by constantly refering to "consenting heterosexual married couples" you are lending respectability and credibility to your questions)?"
Or you if you wanted to be more controversial, you might ask; "If I become a witness, will I still be allowed to wank? If so, how often, and what is material is considered appropriate by The Organisation? For example, do they provide a kingdom-wank-of-the-month picture calender, for wholseome theocratic solo relief?"
Hmmm... it's a bit involved, but you could try my idea (I've been wanting to test on a JW for a while now!):
Firstly, ask them if they believe in a soul. Obviously they'll answer "no".
Then, ask them if they believe in resurrection. They'll obviously say yes.
Then ask them that if a body has decomposed (as millions of worshippers of God through the years surely have), then how can a person be resurrected if they don't have a soul. Surely just recreating a person wouldn't actually BE that person, merely a copy, and the is not in fact resurrection.
And if they say God could use the exact molecules and atoms in recreating a person, then tell them that in fact the atoms of dead people have become parts of the Earth's soil, air and water in the meantime, and then have found themselves into NEW people - such as you and me!
In short, the resurrection myth (because that's what it really is, a myth at best, a lie at worst), cannot logically make sense without resorting to the idea of a soul or spirit seperate from the body.
Try this and see if their heads explode! Make sure you let us know how it goes...
