Strangers to the Past. Would You Agree.

Blueblades

Would you agree that whether in the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages, the Age of Discovery, the Industrial Age, the Atomic Age, the Space Age, the events of the day are essentially repetitions, variations, elaborations or extensions of the past, and life on earth, the overall course of humankind, human nature itself and mankind's relationships with one another continue very much the same as they were in the past.

Would you agree that what appears momentous, even stupendous, to one generation is not to the next, and rarely figures in the daily thoughts or concerns of people living in such later times.

Would you agree that the past fades from human thoughts that are immersed in the present and grappling with the future.

Would you agree that the only genuinely complete change would only take place if, and this is a big "IF",some power beyond humankind, "GOD" if you will, actually someone who is not a stranger to the past and is a competent judge of the present changes the cycle of human history for the betterment of all mankind.

Otherwise our children's children will follow in our footsteps as to being strangers to the past.And we will also fade into the past as forgotten by those immersed in the present and grappling with the future.

As many have posted here, we are stuck in the present, discussing recent past events, and trying to make sense out of what the future holds for us.

I don't know why I am posting this except that my mind is restless and spinning going nowhere fast.Does this happen to you?Has 30 something years in the Watchtower brought me to this point in my life?I am in a holding pattern trying so hard to flush 30 years out of my mind.

Blueblades

Markfromcali

I don't know why I am posting this except that my mind is restless and spinning going nowhere fast.

That's what minds tend to do, until you realize you are not your mind. By this I mean not identified with your existing thought structures, then the real power of mind comes through.

I would point out what would need to happen is just breaking through the cycle of cause and effect, it's simply a matter of actually choosing and directing life instead of being pushed around unconsciously.

talesin

Yes! Too true. You have struck a chord, Blueblades.

talesin

Leolaia

I make the same point in my Rephaim/Nephilim threads, of how the not-to-distant past was forgotten in ancient Israel and replaced by myth....

SYN

We humans are notorious for our short memories - but it's a survival tactic.

On a similiar note, my personal "belief" or "feeling", yes, that's a better word, is that humanity is rapidly approaching a technological Singularity event - the point when the current exponential growth of technology becomes so fast that we will reach a place and time where everything changes, all at once. This is all backed up by the numbers, but then, it's just a little theory.

It seems to me that many, many people are picking up the same feeling from recent events, although their personal interpretations differ. JCanon, for example, interprets all this to mean that he's the Second Christ. Different strokes, I guess.

As far as that goes, I'm just an interested observer, and I think there's a good novel or two to be gotten out of the supposed "End Times".

And, last but not least, the attitude of a "Big Brother" figure stepping in to save mankind has been a problem for absolutely ages. If humans stuffed it up, we can certainly fix it, and that goes for anything, except for the fact that very few humans are brave enough to go against the flow in this regard. *sigh*

True North

Would you agree that whether in the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages, the Age of Discovery, the Industrial Age, the Atomic Age, the Space Age, the events of the day are essentially repetitions, variations, elaborations or extensions of the past, and life on earth, the overall course of humankind, human nature itself and mankind's relationships with one another continue very much the same as they were in the past.

No, I don't agree with that. I think that the fruits of the scientific, industrial, and liberal revolutions have made life for people in many lands hugely different than they were before. I, for one, am very grateful for this and would be horrified at the thought have having to live either in some ancient "Dark Age" or in some contemporary illiberal, poverty-stricken nation that has not enjoyed the fruits of that "trinity" of revolutions.

Civilization, as we think of it, has been around for less than 10,000 years. That is a drop in the bucket of the age of the universe. We've come so far in this relatively short time -- who knows what waits ahead if we can avoid having the fruits of science and technology so misused as to bring on a new dark age.

Would you agree that the past fades from human thoughts that are immersed in the present and grappling with the future.

That's probably true for most people but certainly not for all. Leolaia certainly seems no stranger to the past and I try not to be either. And since the invention of movable type and the printing press down to all our more recently introduced communication and storage media (film, television, Internet, et al.) we have the means to "remember" the past better than any previous civilization. True, only a minority take advantage of this, but it's still a huge number of people. Goodness, we even have a "History Channel" on television, a History Book Club, and any number of history magazines populating the magazine racks at Borders and Barnes & Noble.

got my forty homey?

Uh, what you lost me?

Farkel

: Would you agree that whether in the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages, the Age of Discovery, the Industrial Age, the Atomic Age, the Space Age, the events of the day are essentially repetitions, variations, elaborations or extensions of the past, and life on earth, the overall course of humankind, human nature itself and mankind's relationships with one another continue very much the same as they were in the past.

Yes.

: Would you agree that what appears momentous, even stupendous, to one generation is not to the next, and rarely figures in the daily thoughts or concerns of people living in such later times.

Yes.

: Would you agree that the past fades from human thoughts that are immersed in the present and grappling with the future.

Of course.

: Would you agree that the only genuinely complete change would only take place if, and this is a big "IF",some power beyond humankind, "GOD" if you will, actually someone who is not a stranger to the past and is a competent judge of the present changes the cycle of human history for the betterment of all mankind.

Sure. IF that is true. But IF that is true, thinking people have to wonder why "God" didn't step in an do something about it before billions of people suffered and died. THAT is the question. Why were they less worthy than us or our future generations? One has to ask.....

:Otherwise our children's children will follow in our footsteps as to being strangers to the past.And we will also fade into the past as forgotten by those immersed in the present and grappling with the future.

Yep. The proof is in the pudding: God doesn't give a shit. At least, God didn't give a shit about our forefathers and mothers, and MAY give a shit in some unknown future. Whoopde doo!

I don't trust such a God. Maybe everything will make sense when we die, but as long as I am living, I will not trust such a God who has hidden agendas we don't know about, or who has agendas written in some sort of "code" in a book so violent that children should not be allowed to read it. He didn't do a damn thing for billions of people who died of starvation and were massacred for various reasons over the millennia, among MANY other causes of human misery that he sat silently by and watched.

Farkel

Michael3000

Meds must be kickin' in... :)

heathen

Would you agree that whether in the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages, the Age of Discovery, the Industrial Age, the Atomic Age, the Space Age, the events of the day are essentially repetitions, variations, elaborations or extensions of the past, and life on earth, the overall course of humankind, human nature itself and mankind's relationships with one another continue very much the same as they were in the past.
Would you agree that what appears momentous, even stupendous, to one generation is not to the next, and rarely figures in the daily thoughts or concerns of people living in such later times.
Would you agree that the past fades from human thoughts that are immersed in the present and grappling with the future.
Would you agree that the only genuinely complete change would only take place if, and this is a big "IF",some power beyond humankind, "GOD" if you will, actually someone who is not a stranger to the past and is a competent judge of the present changes the cycle of human history for the betterment of all mankind.
Otherwise our children's children will follow in our footsteps as to being strangers to the past.And we will also fade into the past as forgotten by those immersed in the present and grappling with the future.
As many have posted here, we are stuck in the present, discussing recent past events, and trying to make sense out of what the future holds for us.
I don't know why I am posting this except that my mind is restless and spinning going nowhere fast.Does this happen to you?Has 30 something years in the Watchtower brought me to this point in my life?I am in a holding pattern trying so hard to flush 30 years out of my mind

First part --- yes . The main reason for the technical revolution in the past 100yrs. was because of warfare which has plaqued human kind for a very long time . They even claimed WW1 was the war to end all wars .

Part 2---- No I don't think that is a truth . I think people will live in the past instead of looking ahead , since the future is obscure and hard to predict . I prefer to live in the moment .

Part 3--- No for the same reason as prt 2.

part 4--- Yes I can agree with that . I think for humans to have power and authority will only continue to create the same circumstances that history has proven cannot be avoided . You can't please all the people all the time , which leads to discontent from the masses and often leads to violent solutions .

Interesting thoughts there . The bible does say to live for the day and not to be anxious over tomorrow for according to each day is it's own badness.

Strangers to the Past. Would You Agree.

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