Jolene Chu (Researcher, Watch Tower), and her prop

by Kent 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • Kent
    Kent

    [b]The Watchtower do try hard to hide the painful facts about their war history. Tis is from the "researcher" Jolene Chu, from the Watchtower Society:/b]

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    The Internet Anti-Fascist: Sunday, 11 January 1997
    FTP Supplement #1 (#51): Jehovah's Witnesses and the Nazi Genocide

    1) Jolene Chu (Researcher, Watch Tower), post to H-HOLOCAUST list, 30
    Dec 97
    2) Jolene Chu (Researcher, Watch Tower), post to H-HOLOCAUST list, 6
    Jan 98
    3) no author, "The Holocaust: Who Spoke Out," _Awake!_, 22 Aug 95

    < ftp://ftp.nyct.net/pub/users/tallpaul/publish/tinaf/tinaf51.txt>;

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    The following from the ftp address above:

    The Internet Anti-Fascist: Sunday, 11 January 1997
    FTP Supplement #1 (#51): Jehovah's Witnesses and the Nazi Genocide
    ______________________________________________________________________

    1) Jolene Chu (Researcher, Watch Tower), post to H-HOLOCAUST list, 30
    Dec 97
    2) Jolene Chu (Researcher, Watch Tower), post to H-HOLOCAUST list, 6
    Jan 98
    3) no author, "The Holocaust: Who Spoke Out," _Awake!_, 22 Aug 95

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    1. post to H-HOLOCAUST list
    by Jolene Chu

    How many Christians underwent the fate of Schneider for their faith?
    Paul Schneider encountered some of them en route to and within
    Buchenwald. Claude R. Foster, Jr.'s PAUL SCHNEIDER-THE BUCHENWALD
    APOSTLE has several letters and conversations wherein Schneider refers
    to Jehovah's Witnesses (aka Bible Students) who were imprisoned on
    religious grounds. Although he was at variance with their eschatology,
    he wrote: "It must be said that they, as 'friends of God,' remain true
    to their principles." Schneider rightly characterized the Witnesses'
    victimization as being religiously based: "It is not correct to define
    this religious movement, which is Bible-based, as a sect and thereby
    justly deserving of persecution." (Foster, pp. 724, 773-4)

    The regime could not countenance the Witnesses' position of political
    neutrality, since this included their refusal to heil Hitler, join the
    Party, and bear arms. Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Ravensbruck each
    held several hundred Witness prisoners, some of them having been
    detained for nearly the entire duration of the regime. Pre-
    war,Witnesses accounted for 5-10 percent of the camp population, this
    according to Dr. Detlef Garbe, director of the Neuengamme Concentration
    Camp Memorial.

    The Nazis made both Schneider and the Witnesses a unique offer-freedom
    in exchange for a signature. Schneider had to sign a declaration
    recognizing the State's right to expel him from the Rhineland and
    remove him from the pulpit. The Witnesses, in camps, prisons, and
    juvenile detention homes, were to sign a declaration renouncing their
    religious affiliation and agreeing to take up arms to defend the
    fatherland. Immediate freedom was promised if they would sign the
    documents. Neither Paul Schneider nor the vast majority of Witnesses
    signed. Over 2,000 Witnesses shared Schneider's fate. Of these, 250
    were formally charged and executed for their conscientious refusal to
    bear arms.

    The Nazi persecution of the Witnesses was clearly on ideological
    grounds. As Alex Kimel made clear, the religious faith was slated for
    eradication, not necessarily the people as a group. However, because of
    the Witnesses' refusal to renounce their faith, they suffered the
    treatment familiar to other targeted groups-marginalization,
    sterilization, incarceration, torture, and execution.

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    2. post to H-HOLOCAUST list
    by Jolene Chu

    Dr. Rohrlich is quite correct. My previous posting gives one clear
    example of the disparate Nazi approach to their victims. The Jews and
    other victims of the Nazi racial agenda, biological enemies, if you
    will, were never dignified with an option for freedom. The Witnesses,
    as I stated, were ideological foes. Had the Nazis slated them for
    physical annihilation, the plan would have been fairly successful.
    Roughly half of the Witnesses, or more than 10,000, were held in
    prisons and camps and could easily have been liquidated.

    Instead, the Nazis tried to play a psychological game by enticing the
    Witnesses to abandon their convictions. In fact, Himmler for one hoped
    to transfer their strong religious commitment from Jehovah to Hitler.
    (To his convoluted mind, it was a shame to waste a zealous Aryan.)

    The Declaration of renunciation went largely ignored by the Witnesses.
    Moreover, the Nazis unwittingly granted the Witnesses something that
    they sought to strip, not only from their victims, but from the entire
    populace-freedom of choice. To the Witnesses, the document became a
    rare opportunity to exercise control of one's destiny and conscience.
    Frankl, Bettelheim, Staub, and Todorov discuss the process of
    depersonalization that marks totalitarianism and that erodes the
    exercise of free choice. The Nazis skewed their own strategy.

    Incidentally, I discussed the similarities and differences of the
    marginalization and victimization of Jews and Witnesses in a paper
    presented in October at the Wewelsburg District Museum in Paderborn.
    The proceedings of the forum, "Spiritual Resistance Out of Christian
    Conviction," will be published (initially in German, later in English)
    some time this spring.

    In discussing the Witnesses' victimization, it must be remembered that
    they were a tiny minority and that their persecutors had different aims
    in mind for them. In discussing the Witnesses' response to Nazi
    persecution, it is with the realization that others simply were not
    offered the options that they were. And as far as the Witnesses were
    concerned, they were only doing what any Witness would have done under
    the circumstances, as Dr. Littell alluded to. If anything, the Witness
    survivors I know are unconcerned with lionization. But they do wish
    their story to be known for the lessons it might impart to any of us
    who strive to find that difficult balance between strong convictions
    (religious or otherwise) and tolerant inclusiveness.

    http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Avis=WO&Dato=20010612&Kategori=JWANDHITLER3&Lopenr=10611004&Ref=AR

    Yakki Da

    Kent

    "The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."

    Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
    http://watchtower.observer.org

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    Kent, your URL above gets the following result:

    tinaf51.txt>: No such file or directory

  • Francois
    Francois

    What means "Yakki Da"?

    My $0.02

  • Kent
    Kent

    Hi;

    I just checked the URL to my site, and that worked. Why it doesn't work for you, I really don't know....

    Try this one: ftp://ftp.nyct.net/pub/users/tallpaul/publish/tinaf/tinaf51.txt

    Try to go to the Watchtower Observer, and paste the URL manually....

    Yakki Da = Cheers!

    Yakki Da

    Kent

    "The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."

    Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
    http://watchtower.observer.org

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    kent,

    Every time I read this stuff (5 times now), I wonder how many witnesses would have signed the card to get their freedom if they had known that their own leaders were initially supporting Hitler in the beginning, RATing them out during the late 30s and early 40s and living in homes paid by the Gestpo (sp?).

    Is this Jolene Chu person a WTS person or a Jehovah's Witness?

    hawk

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