So Is This Really Adultery Then?

by Englishman 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Back in the 60's a childless couple could be DF'd if they decided to go for a child via artificial insemnation. The reason given was that the wife would be committing adultery by taking another mans sperm into her body, the husband would be just as guilty because he consented to this.

    Can anyone tell me what the position is now, especially with regard to the newer sorts of infertility treatments? It strikes me that it would take a very special type of relationship for a couple to put themselves through something like this, should a religious organisation have any input whatsoever in such a personal issue, is this not something that should only be decided by just the 2 people involved?

    Englishman

    ..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.

  • JT
    JT

    from the lastest info i have on the subject

    if the sperm ain't his it still constitutes adultery

    james

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    I'm remembering how angry I got when I first came across the Societies (lack of) reasoning on this.

    It wasn't, at the time, that I even believed that artificial insemination was ok, but rather that even then, the ridiculousness of calling that "adultry" was obvious.

    Call it wrong, call it playing God (I don't anymore), but adultry? The arrogance of anyone saying that is, in effect, playing god.

  • COMF
    COMF

    What does that make Mary?

    COMF

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    There are other ethical questions that I don't know the WTS has considered yet.

    What if a woman receives a fertilized egg that is not her own and not fertiled by her husband's sperm. That is, neither person is a genetic parent. The donor sperm and egg may or may not be from a married couple. Is the child the result of adultery? Does the fact the birth mother is carrying the child as her own and her husband's make any difference? Is it different if the genetic parents were married. What is the situation of a woman implanted with another woman's egg fertilized by her own brother's sperm...as reported yesterday.

    Nothing is that clear cut anymore.

    Thirdson

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

  • Lindy
    Lindy

    Comf,
    Good one!! Never, ever thought of that one. That is great!
    Lindy

  • Lindy
    Lindy

    What is the situation of a woman implanted with another woman's egg fertilized by her own brother's sperm...as reported yesterday.

    Thirdson,
    Hadn't heard of that one yet. But haven't watched much news lately.

    We as a human society have set the rules for what we think is right and wrong. These rules basically come from religions influence, either christian or pagan.
    My first reaction to this was "ewh" and I though about it for a second and then wondered why I still have that old way of thinking. My mind went to incest. But there is no incest involvment. But, I thought, she is carrying her brothers baby as her own. But I thought again, and realized that she is carrying the life, not creating it.
    We, in this new age of technology, need to readjust our thinking on matters. This woman obviously can't have her own children the "natural" way. So, with the use of technology she is able to have a child and have it grown in her and deliver it.
    I never had a problem in my mind with a sister donating her egg, or a mother carrying her daughters baby for her, both of these things have been done time and again. So why do I have a problem with this woman's brother donating his sperm with another womens egg, so that his sister can become a mother? Genetically, the argument of incest and defects in an incestuously concieved shild aren't there.(The only reason you can't marry your siblings or first cousins, like Adam and Eve's children did, and the only reason that it is religously wrong.) So now that I gave myself a good talking to, on being automatically prejudice to a new idea before I considered the facts, I say there is nothing wrong with this, and I wish the mother-to-be happiness!

    Lindy

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Englishman,

    During the 60's the society got very involved in artificial insemination, they used it in building and managing their milk-cow herds. I know I was there when they were doing the insertions.

    'Whats good for the cow is good for..........Nah better not go there.

    Danny

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