New Info for UK Sue

by Amazing 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Sue: You finally commented on my last post to you, although you did not address your response to anyone directly, thanks anyway.

    You said,

    I keep telling you. I am not a Jehovah's Witness. I have no arguments to offer.

    Actually, other than an uncertain comment by another poster, you have not 'kept telling me' anything about whether you are a JW, were a JW, or never a JW. This is the first confirmation I have seen on this. And, your concluding statement that you 'have no arguments to offer' suggests to me that possibly you may never have been a JW.

    So, Sue, why did you open your first post here name-calling former JWs with the label 'Apostate?' Are you in sympathy with the Watch Tower religion? Have you, or are you studying the Bible with them?

    If not, then what do you know about the Watch Tower religion? Are you aware of thier blatant false prophecies? Are you aware of their cultish and abusive nature? Are you familiar with the excessive control over JW lives they have? Are you aware of teachings and policies that have cost many JWs their lives, their families, their very futures?

    Most importantly, do you understand why so many have left that religion, perhaps as many as 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 which represent between 40% and 50% of their current membership? Do you understand the serious harm caused to so many because of their fraud, deceit, and cover-ups? Do you understand the serious impact that their policies have in shielding child molesters? For example, I am just one JW (now former Elder) who turned in a JW child molester to the civil authorities. The authorities were unable to make a case, not because there wasn't already a file on the molester, but because new JW victims were frightened by their parents and JW Elders into keeping quiet so as to protect the organization's image.

    The reason some of us took you to task is because you act much like a JW. You make generalized allegations and engage in name-calling, but you provide no substance, and you do not respond to challenges and questions presented to you in any serious fashion.

    I personally am not emotional about this, but I am simply trying to ascertain the type of person I am dealing with when I read your posts. If you are just wanting to provide some harassment for your own ammusement, then that is something we can do nothing about. But, you might consider the impact on the tens of thousands of viewers who lives have been shattered by the Watch Tower religion. You might consider the pain and years of healing it takes for many, if not most, to recover from the effects of a cultish religion. You might consider some level of compassion for them, if not for me. - Amazing

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    PS: Sue, the objective of this post to you is not to offend you or piss you off. It is just that one Fred Hall is enough. As much as we have come to be humored by Freddie, a female version added to the equation is not necessary.

    The objective is to elicite some serious, thoughtful, insighteful, and mature discussion and maybe even some debate from you. I, nor others, wish to impose our own views on you. Yet, at the same time, Sue, we have had our fill of hecklers, jabbers, and pranksters. Would you, threfore, provide at least one thoughtful response to this post and address it to me, and make a good faith attempt to deal with the issues I have cited above? Thanks in advance. - Amazing

  • Sue
    Sue

    Amazing, you like to know who I am really am and what I believe?

    1/ I am a woman.
    2/ I am German
    3/ I am disfellowshipped
    4/ I will go back
    5/ I believe that JW's teach the truth
    6/ I accept the fact all humans are imperfect and make errors.

    and from now I taking control of SUE . Up till now my husband wrote under SUE

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Sue,

    Is your husband gender misidentified?

    I have several transvestite and transexual friends. There are support groups available for him.

    Also, you might want to watch the movie Cabaret with him.

    life is a cabaret old chum, come to the cabaret.

    Saxonic hugs

    Joel

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Amazing,

    I get the feeling that this lassie is probably a teenage girl who's parents are JW's. She's probably intrigued with the freedom of this site, at the same time she's most likely nervous that demons are going to jump out of the monitor, so she covers herself with little snatches of witness-ese to keep the baddies at bay. I bet she's made a few posts and is appalled at the furore she's stirred up whilst another part of her is loving every minute of it. Maybe she's even hung on to her model Smurf house from the 80's.

    My guess is that she calls herself Sue Salisbury because she has an affiliation with the town of that name. It's also where Stonehenge is situated.

    Definitely a young 'un I reckon!

    Englishman.

    PS Looking forward to your email re Welsh ancestry.

    ..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.

  • ianao
    ianao

    Sue:

    It is good that you consider yourself a lower being than your husband and that you should be subserviant to him. BTW, I'm glad that at least ONE woman on this board knows their proper place. Your husband should take your keyboard from you and whip you like the cow that you really are though, as I don't appreciate having to listen to you speak without permission from the men on here to do so.

    Oh, and Sue...

    How's it feel to be other people's property?

  • Sue
    Sue

    Thank you for the compliment.
    It makes my husband old enough to be my father.

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