Real Powerful Words, not fake ones

by dh 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • dh
    dh

    1877 (Surrender Speech) by Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce

    I WILL FIGHT NO MORE FOREVER

    I am tired of fighting.

    Our chiefs are killed.

    Looking Glass is dead.

    Toohulhulsote is dead.

    The old men are all dead.

    It is the young men who say no and yes.

    He who led the young men is dead.

    It is cold and we have no blankets.

    The little children are freezing to death.

    My people, some of them,

    Have run away to the hills

    And have no blankets, no food.

    No one know where they are-

    Perhaps they are freezing to death.

    I want to have time to look for my children

    And see how many of them I can find.

    Maybe I shall find them among the dead.

    Hear me, my chiefs, I am tired.

    My heart is sad and sick.

    From where the sun now stands

    I will fight no more forever. - -

    THE END

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    One of my all time favourite speeches by a leader. It poetically expresses tiresome reality much the same way the poet you yesterday said "blahblahblah" about did. Please don't do that ever again.

  • dh
    dh
    One of my all time favourite speeches by a leader. It poetically expresses tiresome reality much the same way the poet you yesterday said "blahblahblah" about did. Please don't do that ever again.

    you're right six, i was perhaps a bit out of order for doing that yesterday, but it wasn't the poet i was blahblahblahing at, it was just the fact that everything lately seems to be US & Iraq, and it gets tired sometimes. i observed two threads by the same authour with no replies, giving the two sides of the same US - Iraq coin, I wrote blahblahblah on both, but my blahblahblah was only deleted from the US side. i know this probably means nothing, but you know, maybe it does. but you are right, it was bad manners on my part to do it in the first place.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    I have enjoyed all the poetry posts. Yes, sometimes it is turned into a discussion (fight) about Iraq and the US but I don't mind. We need to think about the war and try to come to understanding.

    Since the beginning of the human race we have fought wars with the same outcome--death, loss, starvation, pain, and grief. And yet there are many who think that war is still the only answer to the problems that we are having in the world. That somehow, someway, the wars going on now will have a different outcome. I don't get that type of reasoning. If the old way has never worked, why do we expect it to suddenly be a viable answer? Why aren't we trying to find a new way of dealing with things?

    To me, insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different outcome.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    and it gets tired sometimes.

    I understand.

    I'm also heartened by that weariness. How cool will it be if the majority of us can grow exhausted of war without having had to sacrifice a parent or a child or our own soul and heart? Should eloquence and heart only come to "real men" when they've lost every bit of dignity and every bit of pride and every person that matters to them? Nien!

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    Nice Speech ...

    Also Yeah (what Robdar and Six said)

  • sunshineToo
    sunshineToo

    That is one very tragic poem. And it also shows how insane the wars are.

    But what about fighting for justice against big guys? I think smaller people can feel that way, too. Would it be right just to give up fighting?

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