Society says,"The 144,000 are sinners and have made mistakes!

by Blueblades 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Blueblades
    Blueblades

    By permitting pressure and allowing his servants to come into new situations Jehovah gets to know their motives and is able to select the 144,000 "Sons" from the earth for his government.

    The question is not: Have these members always done the right thing? Since they are sinners and have made mistakes. So, the Society admits this in a public talk given 22 years ago!

    From talk # 75, Sept / 1982.

    Wasn't that the time period of the Bethel purge,the 80's.

    Blueblades

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    BB:

    Wasn't that the time period of the Bethel purge,the 80's.

    According to your own biographical information posted on this db, you were an active JW at that time.

    Shouldn't you know the answer to that question?

    In any case, I'll answer it: Yes, it was.

    Craig

    PS: If I need to apologize to you for being too skeptical, then indeed I will so do, and gladly.

  • Sweetp0985
    Sweetp0985

    I read somewhere where a "anointed" person took a blood transfusion and they weren't disfellowshipped for it...so was that considered a mistake or a sin??? Did they remain a part of the 144,000??

  • Blueblades
    Blueblades

    Craig,no need to apologize to me.The 1980's question was a rhetorical one.

    Blueblades

  • Preston
    Preston

    As Pol Pot once said before he died "mistakes were made"

  • heathen
    heathen

    I agree that nobody is perfect . I also believe that some claim to be and aren't .The early church had many mistakes made so why should today be different? They admit their mistakes why can't everybody else? The problem with the WTBTS is that they made mistakes with interpreting the scriptures and prophesy I think those kinds of mistakes are a sign that it isn't spirit directed .The bible does indicate that the truth will be revealed by the right people at the right time .

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Heathen, what would you like to know?

    He, he!

  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    1958 Watchtower, pg. 478

    One

    of Jehovah?s witnesses who claims to be of the anointed remnant recently went to the hospital and took a blood transfusion, voluntarily. Should she be allowed to partake of the emblems of bread and wine at Memorial time??R. J., United States.

    We, of course, regret with you that this sister who professes to be one of the anointed remnant took a blood transfusion voluntarily during her stay in the hospital. We believe that she did the wrong thing contrary to the will of God. However, congregations have never been instructed to disfellowship those who voluntarily take blood transfusions or approve them. We let the judgment of such violators of God?s law concerning the sacredness of blood remain with Jehovah, the Supreme Judge. The only thing that can be done in the cases of individuals like this is to view them as immature and therefore not capable of taking on certain responsibilities, hence refusing to make certain assignments of service to such ones.

    Since an individual is not disfellowshiped because of having voluntarily taken a blood transfusion or having approved of a dear one?s accepting a blood transfusion, you have no right to bar this sister from the celebration of the Lord?s Evening Meal. As an anointed member of Christ?s body she is under orders and command by Christ Jesus to partake. Whether she is unfaithful as to what she professes to be by virtue of taking the emblems of the Lord?s Evening Meal is something for Jehovah God to determine himself. His judgment begins at the house of God. It is not for you or anyone serving the Memorial emblems to act as the judge, but to allow the emblems to go to anyone in the audience as these are passed along in the normal manner of letting each one have the opportunity to partake.

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