this is baffling to me.

by fleaman uk 9 Replies latest social current

  • fleaman uk
    fleaman uk

    BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- The expiration Monday of a 10-year federal ban on assault weapons means firearms like TEC-9s can now be legally bought -- a development that has critics upset and gun owners pleased.

    The 1994 ban, signed by President Clinton, outlawed 19 types of military-style assault weapons. A clause directed that the ban expire unless Congress specifically reauthorized it, which it did not.

    Studies done by pro- and antigun groups as well as the Justice Department show conflicting results on whether the ban helped reduce crime. Loopholes allowed manufacturers to keep many weapons on the market simply by changing their names or altering some of their features or accessories. (Assault weapons ban to expire Monday)

    Gun shop owners said the expiration of the ban will have little effect on the types of guns and accessories that are typically sold and traded across their counters every day.

    At the Boise Gun Co., gunsmith Justin Davis last week grabbed up a black plastic rifle resembling the U.S. military's standard issue M-16 from a row of more than a dozen similar weapons stacked against a wall.

    The civilian version of the gun, a Colt AR-15 manufactured before 1994, could be sold last week just as easily as it can be sold this week. "It shoots exactly the same ammo at exactly the same rate of fire," said Davis.

    Many states -- including California, Massachusetts, New York and Hawaii -- have passed their own laws curbing the use of assault weapons. Some of those are more stringent than the federal ban.

    U.S. Rep. Butch Otter, R-Idaho, trumpeted the end of the federal law.

    "President Clinton's so-called 'assault weapons' ban was nothing more than a sop to antigun liberals," Otter said Friday in a written statement. "It provided only the illusion of reducing gun violence, but it did real damage to our liberties."

    But advocates for the ban, including the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, point to some particularly vicious shootings in which military-style weapons were used -- including the 10 killings in the sniper shooting spree that terrorized residents in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, in 2002.

    National police organizations such as the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the International Brotherhood of Police Officers and the Fraternal Order of Police all support the renewal of the ban. President Bush has said he would sign such a bill if Congress passed it.

    Idaho State Police spokesman Rick Ohnsman said troopers have had no significant problems with assault style weapons and his agency has not taken a position for or against the federal legislation.

    "Of course, the legitimate owners of guns register them. Unfortunately, whether there is a ban or not, some individuals will find ways to get weapons that are illegal."

    The expiration of the assault weapons ban does not mean the end of federal background checks. The 1993 Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act is separate legislation from the assault weapons ban, said Daniel Wells, chief of the FBI unit charged with overseeing the background checks system.

    "The change in law relating to assault weapons has no impact on the Brady Law," Wells said.

    Davis predicted the biggest change in his business will be the ability of manufacturers and importers to market higher capacity ammunition magazines -- the removable "clip" that holds and feeds bullets through guns.

    Under the 1994 ban, the maximum capacity of a magazine was set at 10 rounds. That sent the price of high-capacity magazines through the roof, Davis said, even though magazines manufactured before the ban were protected by a "grandfather" provision and could still be sold.

    Now, some gun manufacturers are planning to give away high-capacity magazines as bonuses for buying their weapons. Sales of formerly banned gun accessories, such as flash suppressors and folding stocks, are also expected to take off

  • fleaman uk
    fleaman uk

    Ok...something went seriously wrong with the cutting and pasting there!!

  • Xena
    Xena

    why not try just putting it in your own words????

  • myauntfanny
    myauntfanny

    Just what is it that's baffling you? It's all perfectly clear. The manufacturers of assault guns have an extremely rich, powerful lobby and the warmongers in power are their dear dear friends. The rest follows naturally.

  • fleaman uk
    fleaman uk

    My own words ? He he fair enough.

    Why on Earth would a Country with an appalling Firearms record even think of relaxing the Ban on assault weapons.Think i would rather take my chances in Basra than Boston very soon.

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    HERE IS THE ODDITY OF IT ALL. OR AT LEAST FOR A PART OF IT.

    IN THE LATE 1970s I BOUGHT A 22 CALIBER "SEMI AUTOMATIC" RIFLE FROM J.C. PENNYS.

    THIS SAME RIFLE HAS NEVER BEEN BANNED.

    HOWEVER IF IT IS DRESSED UP TO "LOOK" LIKE AN ASSAULT RIFLE BY THE MFG. IT IS A BANNED WEAPON.

    DO I EVER USE IT? YES. DO I KILL WITH IT? YES.

    I USE IT TO KILL SKUNKS. THEY REPRODUCE SO FAST THAT I CAN NOT ELIMINATE THEM. BUT I CAN KEEP THEIR NUMBERS DOWN.

    Outoftheorg

  • Lostreality
    Lostreality

    raise your hand if you like to go hunting for deer with an M4A1 Automatic assualt rifle.....

    *looks around*

    no one?

  • fleaman uk
    fleaman uk

    Outoftheorg

    You shoot Skunks with a semi automatic Rifle?

    Those cute sweet smelling loveable little creatures.

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    YES I DO.

    FOR THOSE WHO DON'T APPROVE, I GUESS YOU COULD TRAP THEM.

    BUT WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THEM AFTER TRAPPING THEM?

    Outoftheorg of the can't work up any humor on the skunk thing.

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS WERE BANNED ARE STILL BANNED AND PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL BE.

    Outoftheorg

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