Racism - My thoughts and struggles

by Thirdson 3 Replies latest jw friends

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    I have avoided all of the recent posts on racism and I can’t be bothered to read let alone post on a topic once it gets past 3 pages. I don’t want to start anything here. I’d rather not have any replies of agreement or disagreement, I just want to state some things about my values and the problems I face bringing up my son.

    I am an English born white male of mixed Anglo-Irish descent. My mother’s grandparents were all Irish and my paternal grandfather married my Irish grandmother (Roman Catholic) while serving as a British soldier in Ireland prior to WW1. I grew up (the first 10 years) in the inner city area of a large English industrial town. I went to early grade school where the kids in most of my classes were from at least 7 different countries and where me, being white, was a minority. I can’t remember racism being an issue in those years and being in an inner-city JW congregation was well used to living and socializing in mixed race communities. In fact as a 7 year old I must have thought that all British schools were like mine and never noticed that all the illustrations in reading books were of white families. (I must mention that my mother had strong socialist feelings prior to being a JW and adopting JW ideas about equality of races was never a problem.)

    I didn’t really experience racist views and actions until I lived in Australia and saw the way Italian kids were treated and abused by the “white” Australian and British kids. (It’s hardly a color issue it’s degrees of tone and at that a skin tone most white people aspire to when they go on a Mediterranean vacation) Then again, when we moved back to Britain and lived in a predominantly white town I saw the same abuse of black kids (mainly of Caribbean origin). However, the JW community still had a slightly more than community average ethnic mix and I knew lots of Witnesses from the big city. During the 70’s a and 80’s I attended lots of mixed-race weddings and when I met someone to marry she was a newly baptized girl of mixed English and Afro-Caribbean heritage. We are now divorced and I remarried but we have a son who we share custody of.

    I now live in a suburb of the Twin-cities in Minnesota, a predominantly white middle-class neighborhood. My son, who is of mixed race, regards himself as white and other than his deep tanned summer complexion (to be envious of) looks like any other white kid. He is an opinionated 13 year old prone to sweeping stereotypical statements about gay people and people of color. Yes, he questions how come a black person is driving a Mercedes and assumes illegal income rather than success in business/life! Despite knowing very well a black family whose wealth (family income was at least 10 times mine) derived from employment with a NFL Football team, he falls for the same stereotypical images he gets from other kids or is often portrayed on TV.

    I sometimes think nothing I say gets through to him and we sometimes have very lively dinner conversations. But we do try to broaden his outlook on life. We, as a family, assist each month with providing meals for the homeless. We wait tables one Sunday in the month as part of an arrangement of several city churches in Minneapolis. The homeless of Minneapolis are white, black, Hispanic and Native American. No one questions why they are poor, why they are living on the streets, it is just a means of helping people who need help. I think it is good that my son sees that not everyone is as fortunate as he is and that circumstances either accidental or not can quickly turn your life upside-down. My son often complains about joining my wife and I at “Sunday night supper” but once he is there he works really hard and I think enjoys working amongst adults. I think he likes to help and feels the effort is worth it when a person thanks you with a smile and a handshake.

    The other experience my son had recently was a biking/camping trip with a group of kids mainly from inner city suburbs. He gets along well with other kids, makes friend quickly despite being an only child. Mrs Thirdson reminded him that many of the kids are not as well off as he is and told him not to make assumptions about what everyone else has. (One kid’s dad and older brother are in prison and has a tough life being raised by his grandmother and this was about the best recreational trip he had ever been on.) My son had a great time cycling 50 miles a day for a week. The group bicycled into rural Wisconsin and even had their picture taken for a small town newspaper. However, he said numerous times local residents and car drivers shouted out racial insults aimed at the black kids in the group. At one point two white guys in a pick-up truck stopped to ask my son what he was doing riding with a group of n*****s.

    I think the experience, good and bad was beneficial for my son. Later this summer he will join some of those same kids on another camp trip.

    I don’t profess to understand or really know what it is like to be the subject of racism. I am an immigrant in a new land but being white and speaking English as a first language, albeit with an accent, makes a big difference. I don’t complain if a segment of society changes the designation of its ethnicity in order to move away from old and historical forms of segregation. I don’t doubt I have made bad judgements in my life based on ignorance, fear and assumption due to the outward appearance of people. I guess I still will and I think that is a common human failing and mine too. Like everyone else I think my views are right but I hope I can still change mine and can be convinced I am wrong on occasion. I hope I can instill in my son some of my values and give him the insight in life I had growing up and that he doesn’t become a person whose life experience if of just the “white” suburbs. At least Mrs Thirdson supports me in this and as someone who works in community help projects as a vocation continues to keep me advised of the issues we face as a multi-racial society.

    I want my son to appreciate his heritage and not be afraid to admit it. After all, he has many of the qualities of his mother and I used to love her and found her very attractive not least because of her heritage.

    Thirdson

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest Thirdson... may you have peace!

    At the risk of being disagreed with, I would venture to say that your son's outlook... is being 'influenced' by his friends. Sorry, but that is probably the closest thing to the truth of the matter. May I ask... do you KNOW who his friends are? And please don't say that there's no way you could know them all. You can. All you need do is ask, show interest... and meet such individuals and their parents. You will most likely then know where the greatest influence is coming from. And you will most likely be surprised, too.

    I was able to counteract this influence on my children in a most positive way: I encouraged friendships with ALL races (and they both still have such friendships), but I did this mainly by always having the friends over to MY house... rather than sending my kids over there. Now, they did go to their friends houses, quite a bit... but my door... uh, and refrigerator... were ALWAYS open. As a matter of fact, they still are (hey, it's just food)... and my kids are 19 and almost 24. I STILL feed young folks who can't/don't cook, or run out of money before payday. And they're all GOOD kids.

    Some have told me over the years that it was because of me that their view of 'black people' changed, that I was not like 'the others'. Rather than take offense, I used such statements to start discussions on the differences of people, the diversity, and the GOOD in that. In addition, most of the time when these kids came to my house, they saw MY friends... and MY friends are very diverse, too.

    There is a whole lot of 'mess' out there in the world waiting for our children, TSon. A WHOLE lot of it. Why? Because 'the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one'. And it is the young... and influential (who are not always so young)... that get 'caught' in his traps. You HAVE to counteract that; we ALL have to. If we allow ourselves to have the, "Oh, well, there's really nothing I can do" attitude, then that self-fulfilling prophecy will come true. There was nothing you could do... and so nothing will be done.

    But, if you take your responisibility to raise an unbiased human being, one who takes people based on character and not on color, race, economics, etc.., etc., SERIOUSLY... in SPITE of how the 'world' raises THEIR children... you will get what you are after. You will have 'trained up a boy in the way that he should go' and while there may be some trying times, he 'will not leave off from it.' It is the same for racism, drug abuse, alcoholism, smoking, cheating, infidelity... whathaveyou.

    You teach first, by example... you 'walk the walk' that you talk. If you want your children to be diverse... then YOU must be diverse. You teach second, in love. You let them KNOW that you love them and what you are teaching them... and hoping for them... is out of that love. And love, when is disciplines, disciplines in love... and not in anger, hatred or unreasonableness. It says to a young one, "Your way of thinking is unreasonable", or "Your conduct is unacceptable"... "because"... and it gives such example... in love.

    This is hard for a lot of people. Why? Because they were never taught... or loved... in this manner... and because it takes time... and commitment. It means placing the development of this young individual above and over EVERYTHING ELSE that is going on in your life, by facing the FACT that you CHOSE to bring this person into this world, and by doing so, chose to be RESPONSIBLE for the kind of person they become. Even if they turn out 'wrong'. Because they are here... because YOU brought them here... or chose to become mates with a person who did (or adopt such one)!

    A choice that you and someone else made, usually 9 months before this person existed, resulted in this RESPONSIBILITY. And it is no one else's; not mom (if you're dad), not dad (if you're mom), not the teacher's, not the grandparents, not the police, not the government... you. Yours. You had a dance... or made SOME choice... and you HAVE to 'pay the band'.

    Raising a human being is HARD. It is more difficult than most probably anything else one has to do in one's life. And it can be, for the most part, what one makes it. If you yell, scream, cuss, and throw things in anger, your kids will yell, scream, cuss and throw things in anger. If you're biased, partisan, judgmental, haughty, etc., your kids will most probably be biased, partisan, judgmental, and haughty. Our children are small reflections of US... just as we are small reflections of our parents.

    Therefore, whatever it is that you wish your children to become, or NOT become, know that their first real glimpse of that... will be in you. The second, will be in their friends.

    I bid you peace!

    Your servant, and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    Thirdson,

    I don't want to get involved in these race wars that have been dominating the board lately, but I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your story on the board.

    I have seen racism firsthand, even experienced it on occasions.

    I was at one time engaged to an African, so I had to face the possibilities that my family (if we had married) would encounter racism. I saw how my now-ex-fiance was covertly discriminated against, even in the expressions of the people who saw a white woman walking hand-in-hand with a black male. Even I was given looks, so as to say "why are you with him??"

    I think the bottom line is to remember that we are all humans, and that we all possess the minds and hearts that can learn to love and accept our neighbour as we do ourselves.

  • ladonna
    ladonna

    Hi Thirdson,

    Thankyou for sharing your story.

    I, like Prisca do not wish to enter into a racism debate.
    However, I have experienced racism. Both in Australia and UK.
    Being half Russian and half Spanish with fair skin yet jet black hair makes me appear very Gypsy-like. I was teased mercilessly at school.

    When I had twins, one girl, one boy, my son came out and still is chocolate dark...my daughter fair and blonde.......go figure

    Well my son was called a Wog...like I was, yet my daughter was socially acceptable....

    Now we are residing in Australia, albeit temporarily, I am treated well as I live in Melbourne...a highly Multicultural society....I love it!!!!

    My son enjoys being accepted....and I feel it has been beneficial for him.

    Recently I heard a great comment....can't remember who by...but it said...

    "There is a great difference between racism and criticism, some people do not know the difference".

    Oh well...just my two cents worth.

    And hello thirdson...we used to email each other months ago...

    Ana

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