Open Minded Elder about Blood

by TheListener 5 Replies latest watchtower medical

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  TheListener

  Has anyone else seen the debate on another religious board (beliefnet -is that ok?) about blood?

  Apparently someone who has stated he's an elder has asked some questions about blood. The witnesses on the discussion don't believe he's a witness and seem to be pretty defensive. The apostates have been pretty friendly and helpful as we usually are . I'll post his questions:

  1. Since whole blood sharing occurs between twins in a monochorionic pregnancy in a natural setting, why isn't that recognized by the WT the same as blood fractions crossing the placental barrier?

  2. Since whole white blood cells are in breast milk (up to 1 million cells per drop of colostrum), why aren't white blood cell transfusions a conscience matter?

  I know some of this stuff has been discussed here before, but to see an elder ask about it on an openly apostate filled db means that some are beginning to think for themselves. Read the thread, it is really interesting.

  I am going to do some research on this for him and hopefully I can help answer his questions.
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  OldSoul

  1. Since whole blood sharing occurs between twins in a monochorionic pregnancy in a natural setting, why isn't that recognized by the WT the same as blood fractions crossing the placental barrier?

  That is an abomination and those twins should be shunned from birth.
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  BluesBrother

  Two good questions. I do not think that we are going to be able to answer for the Wts about why their policy is medically unsound and also unfathomable to normal logic.

  Perhaps he should be advised to send his questions to Brooklyn (Or is it Patterson nowadays?) Perhaps their obdurate and dismissive answer would get him thinking a little more.
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  TheListener

  I re-read the thread and it turns out that the only reason he has questions is due to a dub letter being written to the society. His body received a copy of the letter and the society response. Seems he wanted more medical information than wt information (since he already knows the wt info).

  It seems that he can't reconcile the facts with what he believes. sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. He'll have to make a decisions of whether to ignore the facts or realize that what he believes has at least a couple problems. It will be interesting to see what happens.

  I found a website that has a conversation between Marvin Shimler and Rick Rhoades (?). I assume it's ok to say since it's already on the web. They talk about the monochronic issue and rhoades (apologist?) has an answer but I think it's on the weak side. If I can find the link again I'll post it.
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  proplog2

  If you play the pharisee game with the Watchtower you can't win. You won't lose but you won't win. There is one simple argument against the Watchtower teaching.

  "There is nothing from outside a man that passes into him that can defile him; but the things that issue forth out of a man are the things that defile a man....Thus he declared all food clean."

  Mark 7:14-23

  You can eat blood sausage. Blood can be food. Just don't eat blood around Jews 'cause it may stumble them.

  All of this bio-chemistry is unnecessary.
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  95stormfront

  I've read those posts.

  I post over there sometimes as Yeah-right, and I've pissed off many a JW over there.

  Most of the JW over there no longer post on the dabate boards anymore as they claim it's a little too hostile. My guess is it was more they were tired of getting blown out the water at every turn.

  They were accepting of trying to answer questions from this elder at first, but they even turned against him reasoning why would their "brother" ever go to such a place searching for answers.

  Probably because he already knows what the standard WT JW answer will be.