JW believes in ghost

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  • DevonMcBride
    DevonMcBride

    Do JW's now believe in heaven?

    http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2005/01/11/news/top_story/555cf4c353e9bc9186256f860048ae24.txt

    Ghost story: Waverly couple believes image captures great beyond

    By DENNIS MAGEE, Courier Regional Editor

    WAVERLY --- Matt Davenport doesn't want to believe.

    His upbringing, in fact, precludes accepting what his eyes see. Jehovah's Witness reject the notion spirits roam the earth. A person dies, they go to heaven. That's what Matt was taught.
    "Ghosts are just out of the question," he says.

    Matt isn't so certain, though, looking at the moment great-grandmother Esther Klein captured with her camera.

    The darkened background hints of an ordinary room. The void suggests more. Blue wisps shroud a swirling mass of white. Orbs dot the surrounding space. An empty sleeve extends toward a face, perhaps a woman's.

    "I still, in my heart, I want to believe there's some kind of mechanical error that made this photo," Matt says.

    Great-grandma Klein could barely work a camera, let alone come up with something like this, Matt's wife, Melissa, adds.

    The contents may be open to debate. But the extraordinary nature of the picture's path to an otherwise ordinary Waverly home can't be denied.

    Great-grandma Klein was a psychic and palm reader. She lived in California and one of her haunts was the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose.

    The estate belonged to Sarah Winchester, heiress to a $20 million fortune created by the Winchester Repeating Arms Co. Her tale began when a medium suggested vengeful spirits could be held at bay if Winchester never finished construction on her mansion.

    Work began in 1884. At the time of her death 38 years later, the structure included 160 rooms, 10,000 windows and 467 doorways --- but about 950 doors.

    To keep carpenters busy around the clock --- and to confuse any sinister presence --- stairs were installed that lead nowhere and doors opened onto blank walls. One floor contains a window, and one staircase has 42 steps but only rises 9 feet.

    On a visit to the Mystery House, Klein brought a cheap camera. Matt and Melissa know she took at least one photo. Markings stamped on the back show the Olympic rings and word KODAK, suggesting the picture was processed sometime around 1984, the year Los Angeles hosted the international games.

    Klein snapped the image, processed the film and labeled the print "Ghost --- Winchester House, San Jose, CA." In her worldview, that was far from remarkable.

    "It was no big deal. It was just in with the rest of her photos," Matt says.

    Then, in December, she died. Some of her belongings passed to her daughter. That would be Matt's grandmother, Lorrie Janca, the witch.

    "We're talking pentagram-on-the-floor black magic," Melissa says.

    Matt and Melissa asked for the ghost picture and a few other things. And then life got interesting for the Waverly couple.

    "When I saw the photo the hairs on the back of my neck stood up," Melissa says.

    Mike Walden hasn't seen great-grandma Klein's photo. But he has seen a good many like it. Three or four show up every year.

    Walden is one of the owners of Walden Photo, which has stores in Waterloo, Cedar Falls and Ames. His grandparents, Harold and Frances Walden, started the company in 1929. His father, Bob, and uncle, Dick, then ran the business.

    So Mike Walden has been around film and photographs his entire life. All that experience adds up to a healthy amount of skepticism about Sarah Winchester's apparition being caught on film.

    Dozens of suspects are capable of generating otherworldly images.

    "It could be as simple as dust on a lens," Walden says.

    Damaged film will also produce unnatural results. Long exposures, smoke in the air and cheap cameras with plastic lenses can add unique qualities, too.

    "The vast majority of times, it's a fluke that can be explained," Walden says.

    The couple have two copies of great-grandma Klein's image. One is darker, revealing more information along the white bottom edge. On that print, the space could be interpreted as a window frame. Trying to take a photo through glass while using a flash can bend imagination as well.

    Matt and Melissa aren't experts, and they aren't hiding their interest in making a few dollars off the images on eBay. The auction continues until Wednesday. Whatever money the Davenports make will first go to reimburse grandma Janca for funeral costs.

    Problems with the plan started, they say, when Matt tried to scan the better print into his computer, which doesn't seem to like the image.

    "Well, like right now, my printer doesn't work," Matt says. "Error message after error message shows up."

    The machine is only 6 months old and Matt recently installed a new ink cartridge. Then, a power supply adapter burned up and the monitor developed a habit of blacking out.

    Minor concerns as it turns out. Melissa says she recently had the sensation of someone sitting on the couple's bed. She assumed it was Matt, but he was still at work.

    "It was weird. It still gives me the creeps," Melissa says.

    The final straw followed an incident involving the couple's infant son, Ethan.

    "All of a sudden he started panting like he was having a panic attack," Melissa says. "That shouldn't happen in a 7-month-old."

    Melissa says she took Ethan to an emergency room where physicians determined nothing was wrong. At that point, she demanded her husband remove the photo.

    "I told him, 'It does not come back in this house.'"

    Matt put the picture in his van's glove compartment --- which he says started smelling like sulfur. The computer room smells, too.

    The couple understands those who may doubt the image and their experiences. They also know what they believe --- even though they'd rather not.

    "Too many strange things have happened," Melissa says.

    "To me it looks like a ghost," Matt says.

    Call Dennis Magee at (319) 291-1451 or e-mail [email protected].
  • Mary
    Mary

    Oooh, I'd say if these guys are really Witnesses, they're gonna have their asses hauled in the back room for a little "chat" with the local elder body.

    Officially, Witnesses do not believe that your spirit or soul goes to heaven when you die----unless of course, you were baptized before 1935, and even then, they don't teach it's the immortal soul, but rather a "change". So if these two ARE Witnesses, and they've gone public with these pictures, they're gonna get in trouble for:

    a) saying that the soul goes to heaven when you die, and

    b) saying this is a picture of a ghost. Giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying it's a genuine photo, from the Witness point of view, it would be a picture of a demon and/or demunz, which is strictly taboo.......

    Either way, they ass is grass.............

  • MungoBaobab
    MungoBaobab

    I once saw an episode of Jenny Jones about "Out of Control Teen Daughters." Tres sophistique, I know. Anyway, so this mom comes out with her 13 year old daughter dressed like a skank, dropping one bleeped-out F-bomb after another. The audience is eating it up. So Jenny Jones asks the mother about their "religious troubles." The Out-of-Control-Teen-Daughter interrupts and screams "I don't want to be a Jehovah Witness!!!" The audience all laughs. Then I noticed something: a silver cross hanging from the mother's neck. They were trying to pass her off as a JW with a cross around her neck! Some prop master obviously didn't do his research very well.

    To the public, ignorant of JW beliefs, Witnesses are a stand-in for ultra-conservative Christians. Talk shows, ghost stories, and other forums where factuality can take a back seat to sensationalism depend on this kind of stereotype to spice up whatever it is they're trying to sell us, the public. Either this guy was misquoted, or the whole thing is made up. Given my perpetual skepticism, which manufactured details like this only serve to reinforce, I'm leaning toward the latter.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Well, whatever these doofi believe, the picture itself has nothing particularly mysterious about it. Certainly nothing supernatural is needed to cause what is seen in the picture. It looks very much like the "face" in the picture is the face of the person taking the picture. If one had the negative, you'd likely be able to see that clearly, but then again, they NEVER have the negative, do they?

    As for the witness aspect, there is nothing to prevent a witness from believing in a ghost, but doctrinally, they have to blame it on a demon using trickery to fool them into believing it is a certain person.

  • dh
    dh

    It looks like fingerprint smudges on glass lit up by a camera flash.

    What does this look like? I took it on my camera phone...

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