Sooo, whaddya think?

by Sunspot 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    The other night I was watching the History Channel (or it may have been Discovery Channel) and the subject was the Moon Landing. Some people feel that it was a big hoax, and were trying to prove it by a number of things, like shadows falling in two directions, no stars in the background when there is no atmosphere (clouds) to obscure them, and a number of other things that they feell proved it was done in a studio in Area 51.

    I'm really behind the door when it comes to space travel, or knowledge of how somebody could have "faked" an event as monumental as this----so I'm asking if anyone knows what the heck I'm talking about---and do you feel that there is a chance that this WAS a hoax?

    Annie

  • AlmostAtheist
  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    shadows falling in two directions

    Anytime you take a picture you are trying to force a three dimensional view onto a two dimensional image. The result is that many parallel lines appear to converge or diverge.

    This is such a common occurrence that we don't notice it. Go outside and look at some long shadows of objects and you will notice that they tend to converge.

    If you have ever studied painting or photography you would know this effect as "Perspective".

    As an example, all of the lines on this road are parallel, but they appear to be converging.


    no stars in the background when there is no atmosphere (clouds) to obscure them

    This is because the cameras were not set to be sensitive enough to record starlight. I do Astrophotography as a hobby and I can tell you for sure that a camera set to photograph a scene with normal light will never capture the stars. On the other hand, a camera set to capture an image of stars will be over exposed if you try to take a picture of a scene with normal light.

    Something else that most people don't know is that the astronauts on the moon could not see the stars! The sunlight and landscape were too bright and caused their eyes to not be "dark adapted" (Dark adapted is what allows you to see things, like stars, in the dark).

  • jwbot
    jwbot

    AA: I read that entire article you linked to, very compelling. I love astronomy but the site debunking the conspiracy theorists was especially interesting (and informative).

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    There is absolutely no chance that the moon landing was faked. Phil Plait's site debunks the idea thoroughly. In fact, if you were an amateur astronomer at the time, you could have followed the progress of the rocket with your telescope.

  • BrendaCloutier
    BrendaCloutier

    I am far more inclined to believe the JFK murder or Marilyn murder conspiracies than the Moon Landing conspiracy. A person can believe anything all they want, it doesn't make it true. Documentation can be doctored to one's heart's content as proof. It still doesn't make it true.

    Simply put, it happened.

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    I suppose next you're gonna tell me the Earth ain't flat neither...

    The WTS was right... see what beun edumacated has done to ya- payguns!

    u/d

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    Thanks for the link, AA. Very interesting!

    I went off to fix dinner and was I surprised when I came back and saw this.

    hugs to all that replied,

    Annie

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    **If you have ever studied painting or photography you would know this effect as "Perspective".

    **This is because the cameras were not set to be sensitive enough to record starlight. I do Astrophotography as a hobby and I can tell you for sure that a camera set to photograph a scene with normal light will never capture the stars. On the other hand, a camera set to capture an image of stars will be over exposed if you try to take a picture of a scene with normal light.

    **Something else that most people don't know is that the astronauts on the moon could not see the stars! The sunlight and landscape were too bright and caused their eyes to not be "dark adapted" (Dark adapted is what allows you to see things, like stars, in the dark).

    Elsewhere;

    Oddly enough, I *did* study Art, and I'm familiar with the term "perspective"! I remember having to sketch long streets, both city and country, for a grade. It wasn't easy to duplicate what the eye sees naturally. I struggled over those sketches, trying to get them to look perfect and not out of kilter. Years later my #2 son comes along and has a real passion for drawing entire and extremely detailed drawings in perfect scale back in Junior High school! Go figure!

    What I meant by the "shadows", were pertaining to the astronauts having two shadows as if light sources were coming from two different places, like sound studios have (were they called Kleig lights?)

    Your hobby sounds fascinating! I'll bet you have some GREAT pictures! I wasn't aware that the sunlight and the surrounding landscape on the moon would obliterate being able to see the stars. You've explained all of this very well. I've always said that I've learned so much on this board, and not always JW-related. Thanks for your input.

    **NO the moon landings were quite real... My uncle was there thank you... I have a piece of the moon.

    Barney;

    Thanks for your post. How interesting! It must be quite a conversation piece, and will continue to be for future generations. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my topic, I never thought that might happen. It was only for conversation's sake and I wanted to see if anyone else had seen a program like this or if they had any comments about it.

    I didn't say *I* believed it, but that there *was* a theory introduced and I thought it would be interesting to hear different views on it. I carefully worded my opening post so that I purposely avoided saying what I personally believed so that others wouldn't be intimidated in sharing their ideas.

    hugs to all,
    Annie

  • pr_capone
    pr_capone

    Barney - Who was your uncle and when did he go up?!?!?! That is so cool! Can you post a picture of it? I have never seen a moon rock or whatever you want to call it. :D

    Kansas District Overbeer

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