It's a nasty circle, if you beleive in God, how can you say evolution is impossible since the argument goes "Humans and life and the universe are so complicated they could not possibly arrise by mere chance" yet God is by definition infinitly more complicated than mere carbon-based life forms. And where did God come from? He was always there, or has no beginning or end, mystical answers like that. And if you say there is no god because we all arose by chance from a lightning bolt, then how can you say God dosen't exsist if he is also a complicated lifeform. If humans, a sentient self-aware species could arise by chance, why not God?
So we're just chasing ourselves in circles, each side has no right to attack the other. We just need to beleive what we want to as long as it dosent harm others, and cooexsist in peace and boob jokes.
Has anyone read any other theories as to the exsistence of life? I've heard of an odd theory regarding crystals, how they form complicated shapes and patterns (snow flakes for example) from simple mathematics and that life also arose that way.
If humans, a sentient self-aware species could arise by chance, why not God?
...why not a giant pink flying unicorn, singing Frank Sinatra's greatest hits in reverse?
The not-so-small difference is that humans obviously _do_ exist (at least I'm fairly certain that _I_ exist). God may exist or not. He's there with all the other things that may exist or not, and if I had to choose one of those things to firmly believe in, I'd rather pick something else. As a matter of fact, the evidence for the Loch Ness monster's existence seems to be more compelling than the evidence for God's existence. Strangely, people who believe in God are called "faithful", while people who believe in Nessie are called "looneys".
Neither Darwinism nor Creationism are adequate to explain life's existence. Eventually, science will develop a whole new way of looking at the subject - involving "non-local" effects. Personally, I think Plato was right. This world is rather unreal - it exists only because it is referenced to other dimensions/worlds.
That was a very insightful post. I'm referring to the argument that humans had to be created due to their complexity, but God was not. God, who should be infinitely more complex, just 'was.' A good point for religionists to ponder.
I like "something else" myself. Actually, I like the idea that God created everything, and evolution was his technique. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it's likely to be so in the end. Pleases everyone. At least I can't understand why the religious crowd would object, but I'm sure they will. You put forth a great argument, though. We should live in peaceful coexistence as you say. What other choice do we have? Kill each other because we differ? Well, we've certainly done enough of that over the millenia.
Francois
Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
