Just got home but someone you know did an interview today on the recent Blood case here in Canada.
Check out City TV at 6 pm tonight and on CP24 at 7pm
Might get it on the late news as well.
Blood Interview Toronto City TV
by Beans 7 Replies latest watchtower medical
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Beans
Also sent them to the quotes site, wonder how they got all the bible links!
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hawkaw
Nice and well done.
I find the problem with the Press is that it needs to change its spin on this blood doctrine.
The press needs to realize that JWs accept all sorts of blood transfusions and in some cases whole blood transfusions.
Once that is said the press will stop saying JWs do not accept "blood" and their bible arguments and this crap about blood being bad for a person or alternate surgery start falling flat.
This needs to be said far and wide in the press when these case come up. But, as one who has tried to crack this optical nut ... its tough.
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hawkaw
I assume people have seen the other articles. This is a major win to help save lives and stop this nonsense of sending people out of the province
hawk
TORONTO (CP) - A British Columbia teenager being treated for cancer will be forced to undergo blood transfusions if her doctors decide she needs them to survive, despite her protests that transfusions violate her faith as a Jehovah's Witness. The 14-year-old girl who fled to Ontario with her parents wept as Superior Court Justice Victor Paisley ordered her back to her home province.
"This is a matter of patient choice," Shane Brady, the girl's lawyer, told reporters outside the courthouse.
"Then to be denied that choice and be told, 'Look, you got to go back to British Columbia to be treated by a doctor that you've lost trust in' - that's difficult for anybody of any age to stomach."
Paisley said he did not find any fault with B.C. Justice Mary Boyd's April 11 decision that ruled the girl could not refuse transfusions if doctors deem them medically necessary because she is a minor.
"The wishes of the parents and the child have been heard," Paisley told the court.
"But the decision of this court . . . is to follow the appropriate medical advice of whom she turned to in the first instance."
Shortly after Paisley rendered his decision, police escorted the girl along with her mother and father out of the courthouse. The teenager's identity is protected by a court order.
Arrangements for her return will be made as soon as Ontario and B.C. doctors have cleared her for travel. She was supposed to resume chemotherapy treatment Tuesday.
Jeremy Berland, assistant deputy minister of children and family development for B.C., said ministry staff would help with the return process.
"We will try to make the next step as easy as possible for her, but clearly we've got to move," Berland told reporters.
"The window is not that wide open. We need to be able to start treatment as soon as the medical experts tell us it's appropriate to do so."
The girl had a cancerous tumour removed from her right leg at B.C. Children's Hospital and underwent three months of chemotherapy without transfusions.
Such therapy can inhibit production of blood cells, and doctors sought authority to give her transfusions if warranted.
The girl and her family had wanted to seek cancer care at a children's medical centre in New York with doctors experienced in providing cancer treatment without blood transfusions. But her doctor in B.C. said she should undergo transfusions if they were necessary for her survival.
Brady said doctors from the New York facility were ready to testify on the girl's behalf, but Paisley ruled their evidence would not be necessary.
"Like every other Canadian, she was seeking a second opinion," Brady said, adding that their motive for going to Ontario was misrepresented.
"(The family) did not come to Ontario to flee jurisdiction."
Brady said while an appeal could still be launched, the girl will co-operate with the court's decision.
Brady, who has been involved in similar disputes on behalf of church members, has said the B.C. government's claims that she needs transfusions urgently are unfounded.
Berland disagreed, saying it was ill-advised for the family to leave the province in the first place.
"It's very unfortunate that families feel they need to flee a jurisdiction," Berland said.
"I don't think that it's helpful in the long-term to try to continually look for a different answer. The answer was fairly clear and the answer was in B.C."
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that blood is a sacred source of life not to be misused or tampered with under any circumstance.
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hawkaw
Ontario judge orders B.C. girl to go home
Last Updated Wed, 04 May 2005 05:57:50 EDT CBC News
TORONTO - An Ontario judge has ordered a 14-year-old B.C. girl, who says her religion forbids blood transfusions, to return home from Toronto immediately.
The teen, a Jehovah's Witness, has cancer. Her treatment may require transfusions.
A B.C. judge ruled on April 11 that because of her age, she can't refuse transfusions if doctors determine they are medically necessary.
On Tuesday, Justice Victor Paisley of Ontario Superior Court backed the B.C. decision.
The girl and her parents are expected to return to B.C. with a social worker as soon as possible.
The teen, whose name cannot be published, went to Toronto 10 days ago to seek a second opinion on her condition.
She and her family want to go to a medical centre in New York that offers cancer treatment without blood transfusions.
She had a cancerous tumour removed from her right leg and underwent chemotherapy at B.C.'s Children's Hospital.
Doctors at the hospital say the chemotherapy treatments can inhibit the growth of blood cells and that she may need a transfusion.
In a statement issued before the ruling, the family's lawyer said that claims that the girl needs urgent medical care are unfounded.
"The actions of the B.C. officials have now forced the family into Ontario courts," said Shane Brady.
Brady said the case is not about religion, but is about "the right of a capable person to decide what happens to their body."
"The courts in British Columbia have both found that the young woman is capable of deciding her medical treatment," he said. "So the question really is: When it comes to medical treatment, then who should decide: the state, the doctor, or the capable patient?"
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hawkaw
"Like every other Canadian, she was seeking a second opinion," Brady said, adding that their motive for going to Ontario was misrepresented.
"(The family) did not come to Ontario to flee jurisdiction."
Brady said while an appeal could still be launched, the girl will co-operate with the court's decision.
Brady, who has been involved in similar disputes on behalf of church members, has said the B.C. government's claims that she needs transfusions urgently are unfounded.
Well Mr. Brady, if the concern is completely unfounded why are all these doctors saying otherwise?
One final point - whether the family intended or not to flee the jurisdiction, they did just that under violation of a court order! And no doubt did such action under the advice of the Watchtower's counsel. They are in violation of a court order (the law) and as such it is my opinion the BC should step up to the plate and charge some of these WTS agents and the corporation with counseling to commit an offence.
hawk
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unique1
Great Avatar Beans. I needed a laugh this morning.
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Beans
Thanks Unique1, I think it is hillarious!
I am actually working right beside Sick kids in Toronto and this morning I saw a camera and a journalist with a mike so I walked over and they stopped me and let em know!