Mama Watchtower's U.N. Ties

by jomac 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • jomac
    jomac

    As http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/92005/reply.ashx (read in full) says, yes, the main Watchtower corporate entity may have cut the ties FORMALLY while another of its corporate tentacles continues the UN ties FORMALLY (or even informally) as an NGO more on the quiet. It is also definitely possible to associate INFORMALLY rather than openly, formally do so. Wait till JW members find out what's still going on!

    Think about it like this. During the 10 years that the Watchtower corporate mother had her formal NGO status with the UN, there were many personal ties developed between the Watchtower reps and UN staff. Did submitting a piece of paper suddenly end all the friendships? WHAT does our sense of reasoning tell us about this?

    Also, Watchtower NGO-UN ties, whether FORMAL or INFORMAL, and whether between the main Watchtower legal entity or one of its SISTER corporations and the UN, still bring major financial benefits to the Watchtower as a whole. Why would Mother end all ties when its so easy to pretend to do so and yet get to keep the money?

    If somebody asks "what" money is there from an affair with the UN, then they aren't well-informed. For example in some African nations the U.N. has provided lots of assistance to the Watchtower Society or JWs in general such as housing that would otherwise cost Watchtower lots of money. And that's just one example. This has gone on for years.

    Why would Teddy Jaracz "the boss" end things completely, then, when as the number one many so many years at head of Watchtower security ("Service" department branch) he was so used to using "theocratic warfare" to fool WT "enemies"? Who cares what JWs in the U.S., Canada, Australia and Europe think when it can still go on - that's the kind of reasoning he finds so convenient.

    When picketing the kingdom halls over the hiding of child molesters, let's not forget the UN affair. They make the elders preach against the U.N. in the kingdom halls but in the back alleys of New York there's way too much business as usual!

  • jomac
    jomac

    Also, for anyone who may go to a WT convention, why not try out Danny Hazard's checks including the one about the U.N.:

    http://www.dannyhaszard.com/checksforWT.htm

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw
    the main Watchtower corporate entity may have cut the ties FORMALLY while another of its corporate tentacles continues the UN ties FORMALLY (or even informally) as an NGO more on the quiet.

    Again lets all be careful here.

    The WTS is an non governmental organization (by definition a not for profit corporation). The Watchtower, as an NGO, voluntarily applied and was accredited as an "associated" NGO with the Department of Public Information of the UN. After October 2001, the UN took away the WTS's "associated" NGO status. The WTS remains an NGO but does not have consultative or associated status with the different UN branches.

    Based on my review of other companies (including what seems to be the hundred or so corporations that Norris and Love site in their lawsuits) I have not found any link corporate links between the NGO corporations that belong to the JWs with ECOSOC or DPI at the UN.

    You have enough amo to nail them with what they have done in the 1990s.

    hawk

  • BONEZZ
    BONEZZ

    Can someone explain this... http://www.dec.org/pdf_docs/PNACS222.pdf

    On Page 6 (PDF file page 8) the WTBS is mentioned twice as donor and a recipient in this 2003 document. The whole article seems to be about NGO's and their affiliation with India. Thanks.

    -BONEZZ

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    I totally agree with jomac, as the Watchtower really needs these NGOs and their contacts to survive in the modern world now. We will see more evidence of this soon I am sure. Just this alone is evidence:

    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41682.htm

    Whether as an NGO with the U.N. or whatever, the point is they are ACTIVELY WHORING WITH THE GOVERNMENTS IN A WAY THEY WOULD NOT DO BEFORE.

    That is the point.

    Randy

    www.randyTV.com

  • rebel8
    rebel8
    As http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/92005/reply.ashx (read in full) says,

    That is amazing news and I will need to add it to my website. The link above does not work, however, and I'm not familiar with what you're referring to. I even tried typing it in and deleting the word reply, but it doesn't work. Can anyone suggest a way for me to access it?

    Can someone explain this... http://www.dec.org/pdf_docs/PNACS222.pdf

    I too would appreciate more information on that document. Anyone?

  • jomac
    jomac

    Use http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/92005/1.ashx which is the corrected link for what I first mentioned. These ties forged from already established ties, money and the like definitely bear watching just as Randy (dogpatch) says. Another question is what the Watchtower's ties are to the various NGOs themselves is, not necessarily to the U.N. in a direct fashion but to its NGOs.

  • mcsemike
    mcsemike

    If the UN is the wild beast and the great whore of Babylon rides on it as several of their books show in pictures, then didn't the WT climb up on the back of that same beast, wrap its arms around the whore, smell her perfume, feel her body, spiritually/symbolically commit fornication with the whore while both were riding on the back of the beast, and then try to jump off when people noticed? Then they deny it while having the whore's lipstick on their collars, smell of her perfume, and other assumptions that I can leave out (STD's, pregnancy, etc.). What's the difference? If you walk into the red light district or ride the beast, you are a "John". The cops arrest people for that. So why should God feel any different? I can be DF'd for fornication, but the WT can do it openly, and if I complain, I'M the one who is wrong? Does anyone else see the irony here? When will the average JW wake up and stop blindly swallowing the regurgitated vomit of the GB? Are JW's little birds who just eat, do, obey, whatever "Mother" bird says? I honestly believe that people have forgotten how to think. What a world.

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