Being tailed at the hall

jurs

I wanted to share an experience and see if any of had a similar expereince when you were a JW.
Right before I started doubting, I had gone to "Stars on ice" with an elders wife , we had dinner first and we ended up getting drunk. Smashed might be a better word choice. Anyhow I immediately the next day went to the elders to confess and also ratted on my friend. She shared damaging ,confidential stuff with me which I also told the elders.
I thought I was doing the right thing, anyhow I noticed from then on that the elders that met with me seemed to eavesdropping on my conversations.
It was very odd. One elder in particular Brad Oakman, don't know if any of you know him, would stand close by and listen in on my conversations. I was beginning to feel insulted and it really started to give me the creeps.
Do any of you Ex- Elders out there know if this is standard ? I'm sure it wasn't my imagination. Did they think I was a wolf that was going to hurt the flock ?
Jurs

blondie

It depends on whether or not they believed you and whether the elder's wife told the truth herself. Have you talked to her since you made these revelations to the elders? These "she said--she said" situations tend to drift to the direction of the more respected person--the elder's wife, perhaps. Is there anything in your conversations that would interest an elder? Just turn around and eyeball him and say, "Is there anything I can help you with?" He'll probably say no and go somewhere else. Do this enough and he'll leave you alone...especially since it is in front of the person you are talking to.

Kent

Hi jurs

I thought I was doing the right thing, anyhow I noticed from then on that the elders that met with me seemed to eavesdropping on my conversations.

It's strange, but not even criminals like squealers, police officers despise them, intelligence officers despise informers as well - even though they (some times) pretend to like the creeps.

Fact is, you can never trust a squealer - and the Watchtower knows that. You made trouble for an elders wife, and they didn't like that either. What could you say the next time?

I know, I know. "It's a time to talk" - but nobody likes the persons who does.....

So, I'm convinced they tailed you. No doubt - maybe they could get more info - but they wanted to know if you were spreading slender. That way they could get rid of you - or make you feel so miserable you never dared doing that stunt again!

Yakki Da

Kent

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HoChiMin

Hi Jurs;

It sounds like he may have liked you, if that is your pic I can see why. Seriously though, it's not standard procedure to eavesdrop on people. Sounds strange.

HCM

jurs

Blondie,

I DA'd myself many months later, so I no longer go to the hall. Alot happened after that incident but related to that incedent that got me doubting.
I did talk to her afterwards and she did deny everything. Her elder husband covered for her.
I couldn't get over it. Today, I understand why she lied. She was scared to death of being DF'd.
jurs

blondie

Sorry, jurs, I didn't realize that this was in the past. Big surprise, that she lied....makes you wonder if anyone at the KH really thinks God is listening or even exists....

Lesson for those still attending....if it's your word against theirs, they will lie....count on it.

seven006

Jurs,

Your problem was not taking the elder husband with you when you two got smashed. I spent may hours having the elders hang out at my house while we accidentally over served ourselves. Not once did any of them feel the need to confess to each other about our little "gatherings".

They were trying to prime me for the honor of becoming a ministerial servant. I just never seemed to be able to get my hours up enough to pass the test. I miss my semi reserved seat in the back room confessional / library.

The next time you feel like confessing something talk to your cat.

Dave

Prisca

Hey Jurs,

These elders can act like real children sometimes, eh? I haven't had elders try to "eavesdrop" on me, it usually was the other way around, haha! And you're right about the elder's wife lying to save face - she would have lost every bit of prestige she's worked for, especially being an elder's wife and all.

The next time you feel like confessing something talk to your cat.

Ne'er a truer word been spoken. After you've said it all, your cat will purr and snuggle further into your lap, still loving you no matter what you said.

Stephanus

Just goes to show how careful you've got to be when joining up with ANY organisation. It always pays to sit back and work out who is allied with who and what they think on certain matters. And NEVER tell them anything they could use against you. I think any Religious Organisation Politics 101 course should use the movie "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying" as its source material.

Q: How do you know a Dub loyal to "Jehovah's Organisation" is lying?
A: Their lips are moving.

Being tailed at the hall

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