I had an interesting conversation with my mom and she glowed about how "wonderful" the public talk was on Sunday. The brother talked about Bible prophecy "WAS" being fulfilled "for the future">>> Huh?? The "king of the north" would be exposed just as Jehovah's people have been saying in our day! Bible prophecy IS going to come true---just as the Bible says so and Jehovah has used His servants to comprehend......
Confused Jehovah's Witnesses Still Believe In Watchtower Interpretation
by minimus 9 Replies latest jw friends
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lawrence
Hey Min great! Is this the talk where they state, "Jehovah's Organization never runs ahead of God's direction, and the FDS was, is, and always will be God's mouthpiece." At least they could have served coffee and donuts for the survivors.
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heathen
I don't think the WTBTS has a clue what they are talking about in regards to the king of north and south . The way they keep changing the identities and claiming the roles can be reversed and that history keeps repeating itself .................. oh brother give me a friggen break .......... I'd like to know where in the bible that it says these battles are relative to all those battles listed in the Daniel prophesy book . It just looks like an end time prophesy to me really . I think the US ,Britian coalition are the king of the north and not the south anyway ..... I just hate the way the WTBTS concluded the things they did in that study .
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Terry
Bible prophecy IS going to come true---just as the Bible says so and Jehovah has used His servants to comprehend......
Just toss her a sheet of paper and a pencil and say:
"Write down "WHO" "Where" and "WHEN" and I'll believe it when it happens if you'll promise to disbelieve it when it doesn't."
T.
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MidwichCuckoo
Minimus - what choice do they have?
Terry - you're wonderful
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Honesty
The "king of the north" would be exposed just as Jehovah's people have been saying in our day!
How can anyone make any sense out of what the WTBTS says about the '"king of the north"?
*** w96 1/15 27 Light Ends an Age of Darkness ***
Following Alexander’s death in 323 B.C.E., his successors in Syria and Egypt were the first to fill the roles that the prophet Daniel called “the king of the north” and “the king of the south.” (Daniel 11:1-19)*** w93 11/1 13 A King Profanes Jehovah's Sanctuary ***
2 The prophecy has to do with the ongoing enmity between the king of the north and the king of the south and was discussed in detail in the book “Your Will Be Done on Earth.” In that book it was shown that the king of the north was originally Syria, to the north of Israel. Afterward, the role was taken over by Rome. To begin with, the king of the south was Egypt.*** w93 11/1 20 The Final Victory of Michael, the Great Prince ***
The history of the last days has featured the expansionism of the king of the north. During the second world war, the Nazi “king” flooded over his borders into the surrounding lands. At the end of that war, the successor “king” built a powerful empire outside his own boundaries. During the Cold War, the king of the north fought his rival in proxy wars and insurgencies in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. He persecuted genuine Christians, limiting (but by no means stopping) their activity. And his military and political offensives brought a number of lands under his control. This is exactly as the angel prophesied: “He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration [the spiritual estate of God’s people], and there will be many lands that will be made to stumble.”—Daniel 11:41a.*** w93 11/1 21 The Final Victory of Michael, the Great Prince ***
12 So who is the king of the north now? Is he to be identified with one of the countries that were part of the old Soviet Union? Or is he changing identity completely, as he has a number of times before? We cannot say. Who will be the king of the north when Daniel 11:44, 45 is fulfilled? Will the rivalry between the two kings flare up again? And what of the huge nuclear stockpiles that still exist in a number of lands? Only time will provide the answers to these questions. -
minimus
Midwich, they have a choice not to believe any of it. The speaker had all sorts of news clippings to "prove" what he said was in fulfillent of Bible prophecy.
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kid-A
To ensure you have a future....first destroy your past...that has been the JW modus operandi from day 1. The rank and file are so blissfully unaware (or willfully forgetful) of all the myriad
interpretations the WTS has proferred about this ridiculous prophecy over all these years that whenever some new interpretation of an old prophecy is proclaimed, the mentally regulated thought process of the dub automatically readjusts itself (delete old file=insert new file). I remember the mental gymnastics my parents went through trying to explain the fall of the Soviet empire (which for years and years had been the "king of the north").....I recall one dub once telling me that China was the new "king of the north" ??!!
New converts dont have a clue about the old prophecies since the witnesses RARELY discuss their own history...think of all the trolls on this site, such as "DefD" or grissom, who literally does not have a clue about the past "prophetic" shenanigans of the GB.....
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Stress Free
They really are confused!! About 3 years ago the circuit overseer stated in his talk to stop speculating about who is the king of the north, as this prophecy had already been fulfilled. He said we have now moved on to the final stages of Daniels prophecy and that we are only waiting for the 8th king (the UN) to turn on religion.
They are certainly painting themselves into a corner.
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upside/down
Am I mistaken...I thought they treated your Mom like shit?
What's up wit dat?
u/d