Researchers use light to extract hydrogen from water

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  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    If they could get this working at a reasonable percent of efficiency it would solve all of the worlds energy problems. Just imagine exposing a container of water to light and seeing lots of hydrogen come bubbling out.

    http://www.physorg.com/news6084.html

    Researchers shed more light on conversion of water to hydrogen gas
    Chemists are several steps closer to teasing hydrogen fuel from water using man-made molecular devices that collect electrons and use them to split hydrogen from oxygen.
    Electrons are negatively charged particles that allow atoms to react and form bonds. Karen Brewer, professor of chemistry, announced at last August's ACS meeting that her group was able to use light to initiate electron collection and deliver the electrons to the catalyst site where they can be used to reduce water to hydrogen. "Light energy is converted to chemical energy," Brewer said.

    In the past year, the group has come up with additional molecular assemblies that absorb light more efficiently and activate conversion more efficiently. "We have come up with other systems to convert light energy to hydrogen. So we have a better understanding of what parts and properties are key to having a molecular system work," Brewer said.

    The researchers are working with the Air Force Research Laboratory, which is modeling what happens in the molecular systems after light is absorbed. "The AFRL researchers are interested in how light causes charge separation in large molecular systems. We have been working together to understand the initial stages of the light activation process in our molecular assemblies," Brewer said.

    "Previously we concentrated on collecting light and delivering it to the catalyst site. Now we are concentrating on using this activated catalyst to convert water to hydrogen," Brewer said. "Once we know more about how this process happens, using our supramolecular design process, we can plug in different pieces to make it function better."

    Jared Brown, of Salem, Va., presents the poster, "Multielectron photoreduction of mixed metal supramolecular complexes and their application in photochemical hydrogen production" (INOR 138), co-authored by Mark Elvington, of Blacksburg, and Brewer, from 7 to 9 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 28.

    Elvington presents the poster, "Supramolecular ruthenium(II), rhodium(III) mixed metal complexes as photochemical molecular devices: Mechanistic studies investigating photoinitiated electron collection (INOR 388), co-authored by Brown and Brewer, from 7 to 9 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 30.

    Poster sessions are in the Washington, D.C., Convention Center Hall A.

    ACS summer fellow Shatara Mayfield from North Carolina A&T was awarded a fellowship to spend her summer working on this project.

    Source: Virginia Tech
  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Wasn't there a Keanu Reeves movie about this?

  • undercover
    undercover

    We think we live in a pretty enlightened and technologically advanced world but I'd love to be able to be around in a couple of hundred years when people look back at our time period and view us a backwards and ignorant. They'll laugh at our internal combustion engines and pollution causing factories. They'll marvel at how we paid for energy when to them energy is like sunlight....free (of course, somebody will probably find a way to charge for it...like water).

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    One of my non-JW friends of over 35 years who I refused to shun when I joined the cult is a judge (a real one) in Georgia who has a Phd in nuclear physics. He tried to explain the process of extracting hydrogen from water to me back in 1977 but I couldn't grasp the concept. I asked him why no one was doing it and his answer was, "Because the oil companies would nip it in the bud before it could be accomplished." 28 years later it is being touted as a viable alternative to fossil fuels. I wonder why now and not back in '77. Maybe because profits are more important than anything to some in power?

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Wow, now if they could only figure out a way to get the oxygen out...

    Doesn't it figure that the process would require rare metal catalysts?

    Probably also requires light intensities that are beyond laser.

    ...and plasma temperatures.

    *sigh*

    I don't think that hydrogen is the great answer that will solve our energy problems forever. For one thing, hydrogen is FLAMMABLE. Remember the Hindenberg? ("Oh, the humanity!") That was hydrogen. Hydrogen is also the lightest (least dense) material in the universe. get ready for cars with gas tanks the size of a greyhound bus. One solution has been proposed by science fiction writers: METALLIC hydrogen. I checked with Costco, and they were fresh out. My opinion is that helium fusion reactors are a better bet. ...or a device driven by chronotrons. Where is Golden Age magazine when we need hope for the future?

  • Buster
    Buster

    The value of the basic reserach may be fairly interesting. But unless I miss the point, the value of having the hydrogen around is in its burning and using the heat output for energy. - Yes? Isn;t the byproduct water?

    Seems to me that whatever energy comes out in the making of water must be put back in to separate the hydrogen and water.

    Otherwise, sounds like a perpetual motion machine to me.

  • Mary
    Mary
    Honesty said: I asked him why no one was doing it and his answer was, "Because the oil companies would nip it in the bud before it could be accomplished." 28 years later it is being touted as a viable alternative to fossil fuels. I wonder why now and not back in '77. Maybe because profits are more important than anything to some in power?

    Of course they are.......why do you think George Dubya went war in the Middle East? It was so all his oil buddies back home in Texas could make a killing on oil, not because he gives a crap about securing freedom for the people of Iraq. Don't be surprised if the people who try to push for the hydrogen-from-water in place of fossil fuels end up having "accidents" along the way.

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    I remember reading an article in a magazine when I was in school in the 50s about a carburator system that would get 100 mpg. The oil companies bought the patent and wouldn't let it be produced. They will use Katrina to raise the price of gas even more than it is. Why would a shortage of oil make the price go up, except to make the producers richer, supply and demand type of deal.

    Ken P.

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