Separation of Church and State

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  • Shining One
    Shining One

    "A people boasting of their Protestantism as the English do, should be ashamed to support Popery in the Anglican establishment, or to bow before the dogma of union between church and state, which is the essence of Antichrist and the germ of persecution: an injustice to man, and an impertinence to God. The inmost soul of Protestantism is the responsibility of the conscience to God alone, the spiritual nature of true religion, and the freedom of faith from the rule of earthly lords. State-churchism is antichristian, and always ripens into oppression and tyranny wherever opportunity is given it. "NO POPERY" is our cry, and therefore laying the ax at the root of the system, we demand the abolition of every union between church and state, and the disallowance of every form of interference on the part of Caesar with things which belong alone to God."

    C. H. Spurgeon, 1868

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    The Church of England is not, and has never been, a Protestant denomination.

    There certainly has been a great deal of tyrrany and oppression rooted in religious difference and the interference of the state (i.e. the monarchy) in British history, but the worst excesses long pre-date this quote.

    I certainly see no relevance in the quote to the current state of affairs.

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    The Church of England is not, and has never been, a Protestant denomination.

    There certainly has been a great deal of

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    eh?

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    grrrrrrr

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    nads

  • Fe2O3Girl
    Fe2O3Girl

    I have no idea what happened here, but as posts = popularity I suppose it is all to the good............

  • tetrapod.sapien
    tetrapod.sapien

    " There is one point connected with individual differences, which seems to me extremely perplexing: I refer to those genera which have sometimes been called 'protean' or 'polymorphic,' in which the species present an inordinate amount of variation; and hardly two naturalists can agree which forms to rank as species and which as varieties. We may instance Rubus, Rosa, and Hieracium amongst plants, several genera of insects, and several genera of Brachiopod shells. In most polymorphic genera some of the species have fixed and definite characters. Genera which are polymorphic in one country seem to be, with some few exceptions, polymorphic in other countries, and likewise, judging from Brachiopod shells, at former periods of time. These facts seem to be very perplexing, for they seem to show that this kind of variability is independent of the conditions of life. I am inclined to suspect that we see in these polymorphic genera variations in points of structure which are of no service or disservice to the species, and which consequently have not been seized on and rendered definite by natural selection, as hereafter will be explained."

    Charlie Darwin, 18-something

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