Elder's lying daughter

by Darth Yhwh 8 Replies latest jw experiences

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  Darth Yhwh

  So my JW mother has a 16-year-old elders daughter over her house to sit in on a bible study with a 14-year-old young girl. My mom has been studying with this girl for about a year and is considering turning over the study to this elder’s daughter. My mom is thinking that the two of these girls will find common ground and that the elders daughter will be able to encourage this girl to continue with her “program” (my mother’s word, not mine….interesting, huh?).

  Well the elder’s daughter gets board during the study and decides to leave the room and go play with my mom’s dog. Well my mom’s dog is a bit rowdy and can play a bit rough if provoked. At the time the dog was on a leash and in a gated room. The elder’s daughter gets the dog worked up and the dog bits her. Not very hard I’m sure as this dog has bitten me numerous times and the dog bites gently in a playful manner. Not to mention that I allow my two-year-old twins to walk freely among the dog because it knows what it’s doing and wont harm them.

  My mother decides that the elder’s daughter’s maturity level is not ready for this responsibility and tells her that she is not going to turn this bible study over to her. Well this girl decides to go to her elder father and tell him that my mother’s dog attacked her and that my mother is not giving her the study as a result.

  So now Mr. Elder and Mrs. Elder want to have a meeting with my mother after the Thursday night TMS. My mother said that the daughter should be present for this meeting because my mother knows that she is stretching the truth if not out right lying. Well Mr. and Mrs. Elder flat out refuse for her daughter to be present for this meeting.

  Now my mom knows that if she goes to this meeting she’s going to be tag teamed by Mr. and Mrs. Elder and they’ll be relentless in their defense of their daughter’s story. So my mom asks my “worldly” father to go to the meeting with her. I can count the number of times that I’ve seen my dad go to a meeting in a 17-year time span on one hand.

  Needless to say that when Mr. And Mrs. Elder see my father at the meeting they barely even want to see my mom let alone sit down and have a meeting with both my parents. They do everything in their power to avoid the situation but finally they all sit down together. My mother said that the meeting went extremely well and they worked out all of their differences.

  Now can you imagine what they would have tried to do to my mother had my “worldly” father not showed up for support?

  I just had to laugh at the story as typical JW BS. You know what makes this whole story for me is that years ago this same Mrs. Elder persuaded a young JW girl that I considered my girlfriend to break up with me because we were too young to be considering marriage. If you ask me Mrs. Elder should keep her nose out of the business of others and spend a little bit more time with her daughter.

  This is part I of the lying Elder's daughter story. Part II to follow soon.
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  Scully

  Interesting.... but you realize that Mr. & Mrs. Elder have merely put their tag-team effort on hold until they can get your mom alone, and unprotected by her Worldly™ husband.

  This may be a great time to teach your mom the wonders of digital recording devices.
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  Darth Yhwh

  I would agree with you Scully if this were a more important matter. If someone’s spirituality were in question they wouldn’t let this slide so easily. As you mention they would merely delay until a more convenient time. However, because the issue is trivial in nature I truly think that my “worldly” father making an appearance is enough to cool their jets significantly.
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  jstalin

  So, they were/are intimidated by a worldly husband? What does that say about them? They probably are worried that said Wordly husband actually has some ability to reason and that he'll (rightly) think that the whole situation is beyond stupid.
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  luna2

  Your mom was smart not to let them corner her, Darth.
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  Darth Yhwh

  “So, they were/are intimidated by a worldly husband? What does that say about them? They probably are worried that said Wordly husband actually has some ability to reason and that he'll (rightly) think that the whole situation is beyond stupid.”

  I think this shows that they’re just using typical JW bullying, and intimidation tactics to achieve a certain goal. In this case they’re goal is putting my mother back into her place.

  “Your mom was smart not to let them corner her, Darth. ”

  My mother told me that she considered not even going to the meeting because she didn’t want to put herself in that situation. The thing about it is that I do not encourage my father to go to meetings at all, however in this situation my mother couldn’t have asked for any one better to support her. You’re right jstalin they knew that my father would have some “ability to reason” for himself.
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  delilah

  Good for your mom, Darth....I would have done the same thing, taken my "worldly" husband...ha ha...they thought they could bully your mother into doing things their way....it is SO typical....it was my "worldly" husband who actually told an elder , that if he ever spoke to me in a miserable manner again, (the elder had been caught in a nasty situation and needed a scapegoat) that the elder would need a surgeon to remove the boot out of his hiney.....they moved to a different neighbourhood after that... Worldly husbands certainly come in handy, in more ways than one...hee hee hee.

  Delilah Keep us posted, are they going to try to sue your folks now, because the dog, "bit" their daughter, and they were unsuccessful in bullying your mom????
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  Scully

  Darth Yhwh

  If someone’s spirituality were in question they wouldn’t let this slide so easily.

  It wouldn't surprise me if they made a claim regarding their daughter being "stumbled"; that seems to be the code word the Elder-types like to use when what they want to say is "We are highly offended with you."

  However, because the issue is trivial in nature I truly think that my “worldly” father making an appearance is enough to cool their jets significantly.

  Trust me. There is very little, to the minds of the Mr & Mrs Elder types, that is truly "trivial". They will find a way to have your mom come out looking like a total villain while their daughter's pristine reputation remains impeccably intact. There is a pecking-order to maintain, you know. You can be assured that the gossip mill is already working overtime.
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  Darth Yhwh

  Well here’s another situation that verifies to me that Elder’s daughter is indeed a liar.

  A deaf sister at the local hall (we’ll call her L) let the elder’s daughter (we’ll call her H) drive her car. I guess that on one occasion while driving L’s car H ran into a garbage can denting the rear bumper in the process. When H’s dad was informed that H had damaged L’s car he flat out denied it. He said, “no she didn’t”. He then went on to ask “how do you know she damaged your car when you can’t hear?” As if L’s inability to hear has any bearing on her memory or eyesight.

  I can’t believe the audacity of this guy. I can’t wait until something really significant happens with H that there’s no way for this elder to deny. Just wait till she comes home knocked up or something like that. How is she going to fib her way out of that.

  I really don’t know much about H. When I stopped going to the KH she was about two or three years old. She might be a good kid that just has her way with her parents. It just drives me nuts to see the holier than though elder and his wife insist that their kids are perfect.

  I called my mother last night and she was upset about something. When I prodded to find out what was wrong she said “I don’t want to talk to you about it.” She knows that I’ll be critical of any JW that she’s having problems with. I asked for my father and while talking to him I tried to find out what was wrong with mom. I told him that when he needed any advise to give me a call because I know what their religious issues are all about. He replied, “It’s not so much a religious issue as it is the people.” So Mr. and Mrs. Elder still have it out for my mother.