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  Police Said Elder and Wife of Elder Are Suing Dad and Mom for Defamation, Slander and Libel!

  by ReligionOfHatred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom was sexually assaulted by the man cruella and jaundice are marching through their yard so dad allowed someone to post a fredrick mclean (fbi sign) and the aawa signs(pedophile warning!

  ) on his mailbox and yard, now this elder that tried to force my mother in to silence when she testified about the pedophile elder say's dad and mom are slandering him!..

  the cobe elder told the police that my dad is trying to slander his name by putting these signs in our yard, dad did not put those signs in his yard, he did not take them down because this elder keeps bringing a sexual predator out in our yard.

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  Stand up straight and strong don't be afraid. I think you are courageous for even posting this and my every cell in my body is on your' side. I do not doubt you or them...xxxx
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  Please, help me to show the USA that a public inquiry into child abuse...

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  .. in institutions is needed.

  it needs to be done as soon as possible.. and i need you to help me.. i need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the white house.. it has to clearly state that the usa is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.. it has to make this clear: .

  both australia and the uk (independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.. they are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up... why are the united states of america not doing the same?!!.

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  The Warren Commission (one of the more well-known Presidential ones) had legs.

  Wasn't that the one that destroyed Norman Dodd's investigation into "Foundations?"

  The Carnegie Foundation, The Ford Foundation and others I can't recall to mind right now.

  This Warren Commission was stymied from the outset. Information was constantly interrupted by so many "learned ones who wanted to shut the whole exposure up". The determination of those who wanted all things hidden prevailed in the end......Look up Norman Dodd.
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  Largest amount of refugees since WW2 in Europe

  by Powermetal4ever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i had a discussion with my mother about this, and she claims that because of this that: "we are surely living in the last days right now" while i must admit myself that the situation seem chaotic, i don't want to believe that it is the last days.

  so question is, how do i face an opinion like that?

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  What about good old Stalin's purges? Ukrainian peasants and others he wanted erased.......17 million died under Stalin, before he even got into the full swing of Hitler's world takeover attempt......I guess we could all go on and on and on....

  History is an interesting topic, when not used in a manner that causes our children to have to "grow up" in a religion that insists on expecting the death of everyone but them.

  How can any child grow up optimistic, balanced and with a positive view with such diametrically opposed beliefs shoved down their throats. How on earth can a child make sense of "being happy to be in a religion" that will save his or her life, whilst learning about an impending destruction. It causes so much harm.....I am at my wit's end lately with all this dreadful, ugly "expectation" that the society so enjoys.........
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  ARC Review

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i've been looking again at the coverage of the arc examination of jw witnesses.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bonw67c9sew.

  in particular, watch this again from 1h47m to the end.. i think i've made this point elsewhere, but you will rarely see this sort of thing happening in courts (maybe outside tv perry mason stuff).. in the context of british/aussie polite courtroom speak, the witness is accused of lying, his (the wt) lawyer is quick to disassociate himself from the lies, the lawyer offers a consultant's sick certificate, the judge tells him 'that won't help', and jackson is scheduled for the following week.. this doesn't happen very often and stripping away the polite courtroom speak is very revealing..

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  I loved that moment, I kept replaying it until it really sank in that they were not going to let O'Brien get away with it.....Stewart just ignored his denials and said........." I further submit to you........" something to that effect. I have forgotten the exact words, due to a bout of amnesia lol, but i will read the transcript in all it's wondrous glory and transparency.

  It was a great moment and I hold my metaphoric hat out to them..............
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  Please, help me to show the USA that a public inquiry into child abuse...

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  .. in institutions is needed.

  it needs to be done as soon as possible.. and i need you to help me.. i need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the white house.. it has to clearly state that the usa is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.. it has to make this clear: .

  both australia and the uk (independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.. they are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up... why are the united states of america not doing the same?!!.

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  I don't know what to do about this request. It seems that America is a very free place for all sorts of religions to function in. Are the guidelines different there compared to say Australia.

  I think 8 Million is a substantial number of people to be considered. This makes it a big organization, for such a young one.

  Are the states of America different in their perspectives on investigating matters such as religious abuses? Or is there some complete rule covering all states.............As was noted in this smaller population of Australia. It was still possible to "not" adhere to certain regulations from one state to another. This was made evident when Working with Children Checks became such a big issue. I see that America would be a hard place to convened an across the board investigation. Perhaps, state to state would be the way to go. Big things have small beginnings .............not the best advice, but letting you know I am paying attention.
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  JWs are just weird people, I think their going insane!

  by ReligionOfHatred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there's a interesting situation emerging where i live and i want to share it all with you because its proof i think jehovah has pulled his holy spirit away.

  when elders think they can steal from the government and pretend to be holy, than jehovah god has left us!.

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  Welcome ROH. I could be that you may feel worried about posting too much. Time will cure that. Something close you your heart will stab at you and then you'll be off and running.
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  Crazyguy is going batshit crazy a Rant

  by Crazyguy in

  1. social
  2. family

  yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).

  ( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).

  i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.

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  ANYONE encouraging your child to call them Dad is crossing the line.

  To me that is the most important point at the moment. Don't rescind your' parental rights. This can be so dangerous. You ARE their father. Don't accept this and completely establish that fact to your children lovingly. Then be firm about how much time you will ever allow for people to be with your children.

  Stop the meetings for now. Get advice in some well grounded form. Establish your' right as a father. Children are not to be tampered with by anyone, mentally, emotionally or otherwise. Try to be calm......very calm indeed.
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  Largest amount of refugees since WW2 in Europe

  by Powermetal4ever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i had a discussion with my mother about this, and she claims that because of this that: "we are surely living in the last days right now" while i must admit myself that the situation seem chaotic, i don't want to believe that it is the last days.

  so question is, how do i face an opinion like that?

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  Without denying the fact there is a exodus of people who are escaping hardship and who knows what else........bad no doubt.

  I would like to know where she got her figures or the rather broad statement from.

  I can go back to before WW2 to WW1 and show some evidence of this type of exodus from the eyes of a certain Rahpael Lemkin, he was the one who invented the word "genocide". A polish jew who took to heart what different nations were doing to minority or even rather large communities who had lived in their countries for decades, until some new autocratic government decided to either kill them off of move them on, preferably helping the to die along the way.............Read also Susan Powers, A problem from Hell.

  What we have is a global communication system, and although some countries severely curtail full disclosure, it is virtually impossible for complete black out of information. Perhaps North Korea is one of those places that practice such silence, followed by it's bordering neighbours China and further on Russia.........This is not a first time event. It is what has been going on since the beginning of human history.....
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  Call For Papers - The European Observatory of Religion and Secularism

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this may interest someone who has the background and maybe the resources to participate in some way.

  there is time to submit a paper and maybe attend for all you scholars out there!

  the jehovahs witnesses in scholarly perspective: what is new in the scientific study of jehovahs witnesses?.

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  I'll pay my own bloody way!! Got those addresses saved now. Wouldn't it be interesting to see what such a convention would be like and what language would dominate.

  Thanks OrphanCrow how are you going?
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  Watchtower lack of empathy for victim children stunned Royal Commission

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the comments and facial expressions of judge peter mcclellan, the chair of the royal commission and angus stewart, though subdued, clearly showed their disbelief and disgust at the lack of compassion and empathy by the org and the elders and gb jackson when questioned.. this link, is a sobering look at the emotions people should feel at the abuse of their children.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g7vpdfqs0q.

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  I don't know what to make of violence. God knows I've had enough in my life. I don't get any joy from seeing violence like this. I'm all for a nice clinical approach,........I small injection of something that would put an offender out of action perhaps.........forever? I can't stoop to this, but then again............I could have killed my father many times over......who am I kidding?

  I'm responding because I don't want to ignore what your post is saying. It seems you feel really outraged by sexual molestation. I do understand your feelings.....thinking out loud is all I'm doing..........................still thinking..............