https://www.revealnews.org/article/she-spoke-about-jehovahs-witness-abuse-and-her-home-was-vandalized/i've been watching this gal all week too in addition to the rc developments in australia.
they just ran an article about her yesterday, and she found this vandalism this morning.
i hope it's not staged because that would hurt her credibility, but they ran with this story today:.
I'm inclined to believe it. I know how indignant they become. Then they become angry. Then they start wanting to lash out. Some do in a crude sort of "paint the home graffiti way", others like to threaten you with legal action for taking your place in the RC.
I think it may be true.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
Orphan Crow....You are doing just fine being a bit mental. It's due to trauma from being presented with dissonance. On the one hand you are loving the Royal Commissions approach and on the other you are hating the bullshit from the WT elders and now their f_)_*g lawyers.
You'll be okay.........have another beer and chuck a shrimp on the barbi...
PM on the way with my RC update....
i have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.
some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.
this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.
NittyGritty. What are you doing here? You are confused about this Royal Commission it seems. And .......you seem to verge toward "minimizing" the damage that sexual abuse has on children within this religion; by taking the entire topic and generalizing it to death.
Recall: Responses to sexual abuse of children within "institutions". This includes the WTBTS Jehovah's Witness religion.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
Nitty Gritty, please think clearly about this
Simple answer to that one, as long as it is not in conflict with Bible principles (Acts 5:29) the WTS has ALWAYS happily complied with whatever "worldly" governments have "imposed" on them as per Romans 13:1.
This religion is already in conflict with Bible principles. For,it is against bible principle to allow for incest, molestation and any other sort of abuse toward a child. Why then have they not complied with their own teachings about sexually unnatural practises with regard to children...?
Also, it was not so long ago that a JW wife could not divorce her husband for his bestiality. If she did, she was up for a disfellowshipping if she remarried.
They are covering up "crimes" against society as a whole and against their own children and young adults.
are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
NittyGritty. How does an eight year old child feel when no one gives her a fair trial?
How does a young teenager feel when she still can't get a fair trial, due to being called insane and wicked and a liar?
Or, how about when you are still a teenager, but a bit older now and you can't get anyone to help you because the elders think your father is a great guy?
Or another ministerial servant is able to stop anywhere he wants and grope you at the ripe old age of 11?
This commission is being conducted fairly with documents subpoenaed straight out of WTBTS archives. These are the documents that these elders wrote and signed off on. The other documents are from head quarters at the Australian Bethel.
How can a person look at their own signature then try to convince this commission that they don't remember them? Trust me. They do, and they have had them at their disposal all along. The mandated practice that is being shown by these elders is this......Tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Unless Theocratic Warfare is necessary. So help me God
what can i add?
this says it all.. elder on stand is mute till prompted.. .
i guess i could encourage you to watch to the end and a guest commentary, lol..
Ruby Didn't you hear the lawyer ask if he Bowditch, had read the statement by BCB?
Please don't think that. They have had two years to develop their thoughts or defences and they did not.
Every elder who is there has been given the statements from the victims. This is so they can have a good idea as to what is in them.......This elder chose "not to", he didn't want to read anything she had said. He seemed to think that it made his testimony more valid, but it doesn't. Indeed, it is seen as rather contemptuous of these elders for not taking the situation/crime, seriously.
The elders knew this was going to happen back in 2013, they could have prepared for this commission, yet for some strange reason, they choose to come in and blunder. I think that the Tool lawyer has something to do with this........just a suspicion.
this australian investigation is astounding to watch.. the elders clearly don't see child abuse as criminal, if a jw confessed to murder, the police would immediately be called.
yet child rape is a spiritual issue..... ridiculous.. this is what happens when 7 window cleaners lead a bunch of dangerously loyal, ignorant middle aged men ...... in managing 7 million people..
It was wonderful to have this assholes face all over the media as he completely distorted and fumbled around questions from the questioners. He was a perfect perfect example of the lack of morality or conscience. This is what I have enjoyed........watching them squirm, then being forced by cutting persistence.......to answer up!!!!
Do you think this will go to good old jwgorg as a prime example of good Christian conduct? A prime example to the followers of how superior their ethics are? A good teaching tool for Bethelites?
most of you, like me, keep yourself informed as to what's happening in jw-land.
like me, you make it your business to know what's going on.
so i'm wondering why the wtbts is allowing eldubs to appear in these inquiries in australia??
so today a friend recommended that i ask the witnesses about the news in australia.
i am in mexico, in a city called mazatlan.. two weeks ago i talked with some jw's on the cart about the septuagint and the different bible versions.
so we had had a decently amicable conversation back then (i have never admitted i was a jw).. so today i saw them again, same place, same time.
Steve2. Perhaps this comment was more about the general lying nature that is instilled into the JW psyche, and when under pressure to actually tell the truth, that person is under the hammer, fear happens. It's then that a person is so vulnerable to threats and the like. I do believe that the world view is changing though........just wish it would hurry up.
My sister has lied outright about child abuse. I watched in horror as she and her husband did it! They told me that it was not good to muddy the name of God and it was for the greater protection of the organization. Mind you, they are of the older sort of class, but still.......when confronted with absolute statements they made, they outright lied. It was an incredible experience watching them do it.
She had been fond of saying that... "Jehovah hates a liar"... It used to be one of her pet statements followed by her lovely ........Kingdom of Heaven ...look of righteousness.
