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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

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  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  freesoul Thankyou, you have no idea how strengthening your' words are.

  I am quaking but doing it any way. Thankyou.
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  Elder's letter requesting details of solicitors, barristers and accountants

  by jwfacts in

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  there was a letter sent to elders in australia on 18th november 2015 asking for details of publishers that are solicitors, barristers and accountants.

  what would be their motive for these details?

  the rest of the letter outlines 8 specific pieces of information to compile and send to bethel's legal department, and reiterates to collect the information only be "as you understand, without consulting the publisher.

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  I saw something similar last year. It was a call to all those with legal experience to come forward. I was nothing like this sort of letter, which is an odd sort of method of recruitment in my opinion. I would be majorly pissed off, if someone took it upon themselves to divulge my work, education or what ever....without my prior consent.

  This is beyond the pale. Ummm..
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  Grabbing all the ideas. Don't worry if you repeat things. They add weight to the problems. I am watching all comments as they count. I agree with all of them.

  Geoffrey Jackson was very oblique about a "pooled fund". This is why I am most interested in recent issues regarding the Australian Bethel, finances and such. Many of the older JWs here say that Australia is spiritually weak because they are too well off. I have heard this quite a few times.

  If any one thinks that the RC is unaware of the fiscal games of the WTBTS,,,I would say that they are now very, very interested in their finances. At one stage I said flippantly to one of the RC staff that " it wouldn't surprise me if WT cut Australia loose for now.." He didn't laugh. Seriously, there is a sense of tension around.

  I would ban all children from having to go from door to door. That is one I push truly point to. A child needs to play and rest and have fun....
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  Back ground insight into the RC

  by umbertoecho in

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  this is not an attack upon the rc.

  it is an example of the sheer volume of work they are dealing with and the scope of events they have dealt with.. i went to the rc support place here in wa.

  it seemed that many people (staff) were dropping out from this place due to illness, holiday's ..family ....and so on.

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  JWdaughter.

  That is my impression of the RC. No doubting, or 'prayerful" reproach, for daring to bring something to their attention. Just clear responses. If WT had a small portion of this attitude, they would they would be so much the better for it.

  I accept errors because I have made so many. I feel very comfortable when there is care taken to put things right. It's a great lesson in life. This is such a new arena for the potential of legislation here.........why. Only this week, the RC has been going back over the Catholic hearings again.
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  Back ground insight into the RC

  by umbertoecho in

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  this is not an attack upon the rc.

  it is an example of the sheer volume of work they are dealing with and the scope of events they have dealt with.. i went to the rc support place here in wa.

  it seemed that many people (staff) were dropping out from this place due to illness, holiday's ..family ....and so on.

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  Thankyou Steve2 There have been strange things since the onset. I became out right paranoid...I fully admit that. It seemed far much to bear at times. It will be over soon and I hope it does some good for many children in the past and the now.....into the future.....xx
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  I would like them to be required by law to make a public announcement that acknowledges to their members and to the general public that there is a problem within the organization

  That would be powerful stuff.

  JWdaughter, my thoughts are really with you, with all of us..Don't fret. What goes around........really goes around. I am copying all comments at this time, for I am inclined to print or repeat all that is suggested, and present it to them. They are not closed minded. They are really good people who kept me afloat. No names required, don't worry people......
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  Back ground insight into the RC

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is not an attack upon the rc.

  it is an example of the sheer volume of work they are dealing with and the scope of events they have dealt with.. i went to the rc support place here in wa.

  it seemed that many people (staff) were dropping out from this place due to illness, holiday's ..family ....and so on.

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  This is not an attack upon the RC. It is an example of the sheer volume of work they are dealing with and the scope of events they have dealt with.

  I went to the RC support place here in WA. It seemed that many people (staff) were dropping out from this place due to illness, holiday's ..family ....and so on. Finally I emailed Sydney and asked about the rapid turn over of people. My statement was not as accurate as I wished it to be etc.... I was concerned that facts might be lost in a general "body" of my story......

  One day, out of the blue. A woman phoned me from the support centre and advised me that there was a JW who had already given testimony and wanted to contact me. My reaction was to ask her if she had the backing of Sydney for this sort of contact. NO!. She didn't. She just thought it would be a good idea. I asked her if she was certain of this woman's identity. No! She said that a colleague of hers had suggested it. I asked her for her colleagues name. She said she could not give me it.

  " So you want me to meet with a stranger, who comes recommended second hand, through a colleague whom you refuse to name. Are you serious?"

  I suggested she phone Sydney and confirm if this was endorsed by them. No. She had not rung them and she would not give her work mates name. But!! She had phoned Sydney to get my registration number..............I butted in..."They won't give it to you, you know. You could be anyone, and they will never tell you who I am, where I am or anything else. So who are you to suggest I meet up with some stranger?" " I think you need to phone Sydney immediately and ask them for any permissions, before you go too far. Have you not thought that there is much at stake, that I was threatened with legal action in around 1999? Do you know how these revelation will affect this particular religion?" She could say nothing to these questions.

  ( I feel we need well trained psychologists to deal with the intricacies' if brain washing and will add that suggestion.)

  And so it went. Out come? Sydney fired this woman for breaching trust. They brought my case forward as I had reached a some limit in my emotional strength. They act swiftly, keep me updated, don't hide away from a mistake........and never fail to phone or email.. This I can deal with. These are honest mistakes being corrected as they feel their way into this new territory.

  This is why they brought my case forward.........I think. Good people. Just thought you might like to know this little bit.
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  Look at their tax exemption status if they do not agree with Australian policies e.g. gay marriage

  This is a "weak" and good link in the status of Jehovah's Witness doctrine and deserves merit. Another good point. I only have two weeks to put some good ideas together. Already I see some good thinking people
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  bafh Thankyou, good point and I appreciate your comment. I am wondering how I may bring this in to the "suggestions" as the RC here is looking for a reason to de- exempt. All points are most welcome. I will take them all on board.

  Thank you.
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  First of all. Through this forum of wonderful freaks, I have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing. Initially I was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time. All is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done. Top marks to the RC.

  I know that the RC has made it plain to me, that they not only want my story. They want good suggestions as to how to prevent the problem of covering up abuse and disempowering the "authoritative bodies" from exerting overt influence in this matter.

  This issue is broader than abuse and goes to the core of JW doctrine in many ways. My first suggestion will be for them to lose tax exempt status.

  Please write your suggestions. They will be helpful.