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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  It seems things are getting worse, not better, so I don't think it's a sound argument anyway.

  Wait, what, exactly is getting worse?
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  Pacopoolio: If I could summarize your argument it's that children are affected by influences as they grow up and it's these influences that affect their beliefs and through those beliefs their behaviors and outcomes in life.

  That seems reasonable.

  Now you also seem to believe that positive or negative portrayals of black people on TV is one of the most significant factors in this development. I would suggest that has not been an issue since the late 70s and certainly is far from true now. Black kinds are not brought up in a modern-day Trueman Show where they don't know the world around them.

  It seems like there is a parenting problem within the community with many kids being brought up in fairly mixed up circumstances, possibly by their grandparents or without a father and if they have a father a higher chance than many other cultures that they will use physically violence as punishment - something shown to cause violent and anti-social behavior later in life.

  Isn't it just possible that these things could have a much greater influence on their development and future than whether the cosby show is on TV or not?

  Why is looking inward considered such an awful thing to suggest?

  In what era were the parents you speak of children? Why are you ignoring THEIR development?
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  Japan is its own soveriegn nation (along with Germany) - it can't really be compared to a marginalized group within a nation.

  Throughout the world, and history, the result of oppressed people tends to be similar. Native Americans are similar to a lot of Aboriginal groups in the same number of generations. South Africans freed for apartheid have conditions now that are a mix of freed slaves and American blacks in the 60s. Ethnic minorities in many African and Arab nations have similar problems. Etc.

  Unless the contention is that there's some kind of default or prevalent difference between the races psychologically as a genetic default, it has to have something to do with how humanity as a whole reacts when exposed to certain conditions, as there are so many parallels currently, and through history.
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  You're simplifying what composes a "person" to a large degree. You can't default undo years of conditioning in the developmental years with one or two or a few positive influences later in life. It can happen, but it usually does not. That's just how chance works.

  I mean, you're bringing up "parents and teachers." Read that case study I linked to. The parents had even worse upbringing than their children, and their parents than them and so on until you get to the ridiculously low start they had in this country (as compared to, say, hard working immigrants who worked hard to get here and would instill that, and their hope, to their children as a default). As stated in the linked thread - it's not rocket science to figure out how the people that are mostly descendants of slaves or descendants from people that were almost genocided and then shunted off into bad living conditions are doing the statistical worse of any ethnic group in the U.S.
  
  Aboriginals in Australia have some similar aguments put forth against them. After being forcibly killed and subjected and treated as second class citizens, they're now living in poverty in statistically large numbers and prone to the violence and crime that goes along with poverty among any people, and you have a lot of Australians asking "why don't they just pick themselves up and educate themselves"
  
  Do you understand how outside influences shape every single thing about a person? People are basically asking why a person with a ratio of 10 bad influences to every 1 good one can't have ignored all of those influences in their entire life for the few good ones, because someone with a 10-4 good to bad ratio on the other side took advantage of their good influences. Chances are, someone with more bad influences, from early in their life on, will have their minds shaped by those influences, and miss or not take advantage of the relatively few good ones.

  That's just unfortunately how life works, which is why the goal is to increase good influences from the outside (telling parents who have been similarly or worse influenced, with less education and taught reasoning ability and little hope or perspective, to "do better" when the focus in their lives is day to day survival in already bad conditions aint going to work).
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  New Star Wars movie trailer

  by poopsiecakes in

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  the first trailer has been released!

  true confession - i'm kind of a geek, always loved star wars and it gave me a bit of a lady boner.

  anyone who knows the franchise is probably familiar with the character wedge antilles.

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  Pacopoolio

  Also, that's not a hilt guard, but a found, ancient lightsaber that needed to "exhaust" some of the enegy that the blade produced.
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  New Star Wars movie trailer

  by poopsiecakes in

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  the first trailer has been released!

  true confession - i'm kind of a geek, always loved star wars and it gave me a bit of a lady boner.

  anyone who knows the franchise is probably familiar with the character wedge antilles.

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  Pacopoolio

  How typial. Slavish devotees slurping every ounce of drool that falls from jabba lucas jowls. Be grown ups and admit the franchise has sucked ever since the empire was defeated by ewoks.

  Did someone forget to tell you Lucas has nothing to do with this movie, or that much of the stuff released post Lucas (later seasons of Clone Wars, Rebels) has actually been quite good?
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  FINDING a logical way of seeing problems of RACE, RELIGION, TERRORISM

  by Terry in

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  hard questions lead to problematic answers.

  "tricky, complicated, and controversial.).

  emotions stem from values and values are personal.

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  Pacopoolio

  Also, what "people" are you talking about, exactly, since many people involved in the unrest in Ferguson are out of towners mixing in with the regular protesters and looking for an excuse to start stuff (which is a problem with many organized protests, and why many riots start)?
  
  An example:
  http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/16-arrests-made-in-Ferguson-Friday-night-284213581.html?can=n
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  Your thought process and brain is shaped at the hugest amount, from ages 0-16 or so. Why would you expect kids to be able to reason like adults with perspective, about all of the influences that they recieve that shapes their entire worldview?
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  2. current

  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  Terry, and why do you think the Asian immigrant family system might have a better starting structure than black (and native Americans) in the first place?
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  Pacopoolio

  "Stressing hard work" is one of a multitude of things that would help in conjunction with a ton of other things on both sides. Telling people to do hard work and education won't solve the problem if mass media (not run by those people) constantly stresses negative imagery at the same time, as one out of a gazillion examples.

  The side discussion had in this thread gives examples why - there's normally too much working against people from the start and constantly to just say "they just don't work hard enough."
  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/current/288777/9/Was-justice-served-fairly-in-the-Micheal-Brown-tragedy-whats-your-opinion