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  Ray Franz was an Idiot

  by vinman in

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  ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

  i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

  in search of christian freedom?

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  Vinman: I guess I don't see this on this forum. I see name calling, calling God names, and much arrogance and disrespect.

  Didn't you just do that yourself???
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  What Convinced you to Leave?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been posting here a lot, but these last few weeks have been very difficult for me.

  anyways, lately, i've been thinking about confessing everything i've done to the elders and going back, but deep down, i don't really think it's the truth...so my question is, what convinced you it wasn't the truth and that leaving wasn't a horrible decision that everyone in the truth makes it out to be?

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  Adding on to my list of reasons above, I also found out that many "worldly" people are in fact much nicer, better, happier people compared to JW's. Go figure!
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  What Convinced you to Leave?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been posting here a lot, but these last few weeks have been very difficult for me.

  anyways, lately, i've been thinking about confessing everything i've done to the elders and going back, but deep down, i don't really think it's the truth...so my question is, what convinced you it wasn't the truth and that leaving wasn't a horrible decision that everyone in the truth makes it out to be?

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  You don't owe it to the elders to confess anything to them, so don't. What would it achieve anyway, since you already feel it's not the truth?

  Anyway, here's what made me leave:

  1. False prophecies / doctrinal flip-flops / changes in teachings / enforcement of nonsensical man-made rules / hypocrisy

  2. The blood issue (based on a glaring misapplication of scripture) which has claimed the lives of thousands
  

  3. Finding out that the organization actually forbade organ transplants in the past, again resulting in the unnecessary deaths of many who blindly obeyed (they changed their stand later)

  4. The shocking prevelance of child abuse cases in the organization & the subsequent cover-up of these

  5. Lack of love / shallow & conditional love / lack of true friends

  6. Constant judging / guilt-tripping

  7. When I observed the other brothers & sisters, I realized that most of them are not happy. Many are burdened-down, depressed, downhearted, absolutely miserable. Also, I found that many who seem to be happy are actually only putting on a front & are not genuinely happy

  8. Jesus said that his yoke is kindly & his load is light. The exact opposite is true as a JW!

  9. Why is "the truth" so unconvincing & why can it be so easily challenged & disproved?

  10. I could not bring myself to believe "the truth" anymore. I could not go out knocking on doors telling people a message that I no longer believed in. I do not believe that if there really is a loving God, he would be so shallow-minded as to destroy people who do not believe in him, not because they do not want to believe in him, but simply because they are not convinced. The idea of good people being destroyed simply because they have another belief is totally illogical to me!

  I am delighted to say that I am much happier now after leaving. Wish the same for you too! =)
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  A young Indian woman tracks down the man who raped her, and ....

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  https://www.facebook.com/cctvnewschina/videos/1028635983843888/?pnref=story

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  She was not raped, but was molested...

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3211890/Now-S-girl-power-Woman-takes-revenge-man-molested-slept-tracking-help-Indian-women-s-group.html
  
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  Killer raised a JW

  by ducatijoe in

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  2. scandals

  shooter in virginia of live news crew was raised a jw.

  wonder if the borg will post anything about that?

  doubt it

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  "In the letter sent to ABC News two hours after the shooting, Vester Lee Flanagan II--who was raised a Jehovah's Witness in California--details his sinister reasoning for Wednesday's slayings."
  

  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3211803/Vester-Lee-Flanagan-AKA-Bryce-Williams-WDBJ7-shooter-sued-employer-2000-alleging-racism.html
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  Like Mother like Daughter - Our Daughter is becoming quite accomplished with anime art

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://36.media.tumblr.com/42e8b2d4f4727aa95474d8c34617e50b/tumblr_nthszmwlk01rv15umo1_1280.jpg.

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  I see the first pic. Hmm... is that girl a vampire?
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  Why I have renounced Atheism and become a believer again

  by cantleave in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i have always said that if a god showed itself i would follow the evidence and renounce my atheism.

  i have now seen enough to start believing again, i am so happy, i feel a inner contentment, when he connected with me i really knew it was him.

  if you are not a believer you will not understand this, but trust me, look at the evidence, open your heart to him, let him in and your life will change for the better.

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  Ahhh... the FSM ^^
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  Family Reuinion and Being Disfellowshipped (sorry...but it's long)

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been a long looong time since i posted on here, but never ceased reading all the posts and keeping up on the changes that have been going on!

  but it just seems that now i have a need to get something off my chest, and this is the one place that will most definitely understand the topic at hand.

  i have been disfellowshipped for about 8yrs now, and have dealt with the 'consequences' of that decision: all my so-called friends in the org left and i was also abandoned by my own family.

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  Is there any way to have a family reunion WITHOUT your parents? Would be fun if the tables are turned & they are the ones unwelcome!
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  How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society ?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.

  so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.

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  Count me in as one of them =)
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  Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?

  by Naoscillator in

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  2. beliefs

  so a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.

  only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.

  he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.

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  Never heard of that before. Always thought that ex-elders would have to work their way up to become a MS (never appointed immediately) before they can be recommended to become an elder again. Or perhaps times are changing and they are forced to re-appoint as MS immediately due to there being a lack of qualified men to take the lead?