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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-22-2015 WT Study (God Loves us?)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  blondies highlights from the 11-22-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015) (jehovah love us).

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

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  Paragraph 2 of the study:

  2 To some, though, God’s love for people is a foreign concept. To them, God is to be feared and obeyed. Or perhaps because of certain entrenched erroneous teachings, they feel that God is unloving, even unlovable. On the other hand, there are those who believe that God’s love is unconditional and that he loves them regardless of what they do or fail to do.

  
  
  Questions: The WT itself teaches that God is to be feared & obeyed, so does that mean they are saying that they themselves are wrong? What if the entrenched & erroneous teachings come from the Bible itself or from the WT? If God's love is unconditional & he loves people regardless of what they do or fail to do, then why should we be JW's in the first place??? If God loves us regardless of what we fail to do, then why are JW's made to feel guilty & that they would be destroyed at Armageddon if they miss meetings, field service, family worship, personal study, & prayer?
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  Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is becoming more common.

  this is from the last part of the article: .

  "this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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  Child abuse was one of the the "inconvenient truths" which led me to wake up. Another fact which I had an issue with was that I, a kind & helpful brother in good standing & reaching out, could not make it to be appointed as an elder, BUT scumbags like these could be appointed??? It's as good as saying that I'm worse than a pedophile! Goodbye WT... you had me, you pulled me down instead of raising me up, you pissed me off, & now you've lost me. For good
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  November 22 Study Article: God is a hypocrite & is NOT impartial!

  by Divergent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  another vomit-inducing study article.

  would just like to highlight a few paragraphs from it (blondie would probably do a more in-depth analysis as usual):.

  9 first of all, jehovah reveals the truth about himself.

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  More bullshit found in paragraph 8:

  JEHOVAH LOVINGLY TEACHES US THE TRUTH
  8 Fathers love their children and want to protect them from being misled or deceived. Many parents, however, are unable to offer their children proper guidance because they themselves have rejected the standards found in God’s Word. The result is often confusion and
  frustration. (Prov. 14:12) Jehovah, on the other hand, is “the God of truth.” (Ps. 31:5) He loves his children and delights in letting his light of truth shine forth to guide them in every aspect of their life, particularly in matters of worship. (Read Psalm 43:3.)

  
  Questions: Would the God of truth be associated with an organization of untruth? If God's spirit of truth is directing this organization, how do you justify the organization promoting untruth on countless occasions? (The "imperfect men" excuse DOES NOT apply here as all decisions are made prayerfully & carried out under "God's direction." Neither does the "new light" excuse apply due to gross misapplication of scripture & for the obvious reason that God's perfect holy spirit does not flip-flop or get things wrong!) Has not the organization been unable to offer us proper guidance because they themselves have rejected / misapplied the standards found in God’s Word, causing confusion and frustration?
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  So this Cute Chick at the KH ...

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thought she was gonna take a pic of me on the sneak.

  im df'd...been df'd for over 19 years already.

  so she probably would have gotten away with it without anyone knowing.....except that her flash was on.

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  Puppy love...
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  Living with Islam - in the small Australian city of Bendigo

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  the wife of my friend (the one i call gayxjw) had ancestors from there.. back in the 19th century a lot of people came from all over the world to look for gold.

  among them there were many chinese.

  they were often very organised, bringing baby pigs on the ships from china, seeds and seedlings for gardens they planned to start, etc.

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  Speaking about Bendigo, I know some JW's from there. If anyone here is from there, feel free to send me a PM
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  Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.

  dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.

  we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.

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  Perhaps you can use this as a reason to "be stumbled" & fade? If possible, that is...
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  I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

  our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

  he hung himself.

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  Nooooo! That's so sad! Was he df'ed / shunned? I don't know what it feels like to lose a sibling (yet), but my heart goes out to you & your family!
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  Didn't get the Watchtower today at all

  by Pioneerbot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know it's dumb to think it would make sense.

  i've been telling myself to lay low because everytime i ask a question now my husband says i have a negative attitude and i sound like an apostate.

  hmmm wonder why.

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  Errr... Amen? =P

  Anyway, I was more fixated with the "Jehovah protects & safeguards us but yet does not do so" part. That would be the more obvious part that would get people thinking. I wonder what the brothers & sisters in Malawi & or those in other countries which are undergoing or who have experienced tribulation are thinking. It's like a slap in the face to them!
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  Didn't get the Watchtower today at all

  by Pioneerbot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know it's dumb to think it would make sense.

  i've been telling myself to lay low because everytime i ask a question now my husband says i have a negative attitude and i sound like an apostate.

  hmmm wonder why.

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  Are you referring to the posts made here? -

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6255910968098816/november-22-study-article-god-hypocrite-impartial

  I didn't think about that point myself until fastJehu brought it up. The average JW would not know the difference at all. My understanding is that God only acknowledges people as his children after the thousand year reign (Rev 21: 7) Meaning to say if we call ourselves God's children now, it's as good as calling ourselves God's bastard children as he has not acknowledged his paternity towards us!
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  Any time you didn't know what the h#ll to do and just let it ride?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was conducting the theocratic ministry school years and years and years and years ago and announced the #3 speaker up to the platform.

  this of course was the sister/sister talk at the table.

  up comes the publisher, sister so-and-so and her 25 year old daughter as her householder.

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  Imagine if the birth was premature & her water broke on stage. Now that would be something to see!