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  Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"

  by Divergent in

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  2. friends

  so yeah, i was thinking about this.

  marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".

  well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.

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  It all depends on how you interpret the bible. If you want to, you can find a justification for almost anything, including polygamy
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  Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so yeah, i was thinking about this.

  marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".

  well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.

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  The Searcher:

  I know of a J.W. who has been "marked" and shunned by many in the congregation for getting engaged to a non-J.W.

  NewYork44M:

  I cannot recall anyone getting disfellowshipped. However, these ones were "marked."

  Marked, shunned, etc. but not disfellowshipped. That's my point. They are doing something which is considered to be "wrong", but the loophole is that it's not a disfellowshipping "offense" due to the reasons I mentioned above
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  Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so yeah, i was thinking about this.

  marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".

  well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.

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  So yeah, I was thinking about this. Marrying an unbeliever is considered to be WRONG, but at the same time, it is NOT a disfellowshipping "offense". Why is that?

  Well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by NOT disfellowshipping. If they did disfellowship everyone who married "out of the truth", there is a high chance that such ones WON'T be coming back and the org would lose them forever. So why not take the softer approach - make it permissible, with the hope that the believing one can eventually bring their mate AND any children that they may have into "the truth!" This would be an acceptable solution for many single ones (especially sisters) who are not able to find a marriage mate within the org. So while the org considers marrying a "worldly person" to be wrong, they still allow it!
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  Counterfeit Christians

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  counterfeit christian beliefs can only be discovered with a close look.

  the problem with anything counterfeit is that it looks genuine even under close scrutiny.

  us 100 dollar bill is the most counterfeit currency, some of the best bank staff have trouble sorting genuine from real.

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  nicolaou:

  There are over three thousand Christian denominations

  
  

  The correct figure is 40,000+
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  JW Baptism

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://abc7.com/religion/video-kid-cant-wait-to-be-baptized-/1500814/.

  ok folks not a jw.lol but it would add some excitement at the assembly..

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  This kid won't be shunned if he chooses to leave the church in future. Can't say the same for JW kids who get baptised though!!!
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  Why is it so hurtful to be shunned? Why object to it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems like many feel hurt or saddened by the practice of shunning by witnesses.. yes, when ones who we were close to, perhaps family or ones we thought were close friends choose to follow the warped directions of the society, it may seem hurtful.. but really, our reaction is up to us.

  the fact is, these ones have shown that in reality, their love for us was never real or genuine.

  no, those relationships were superficial and lacking in substance.

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  stuckinarut2:

  I just don't understand those that desperately WANT to go back into an abusive situation.

  Stockholm syndrome is hard to understand. It's extremely difficult to help people who actually believe that their abuser is doing what is best for them!

  
  

  If one is emotionally beaten up by being ignored, neglected or punished by witnesses, is it not better to move on from that circle of association?

  The problem is that many still believe that JW's have the truth after all that they have been through! That was what kept me in as a born-in until my 20's. Once I awakened and realised that it is NOT the truth but rather a man-made organisation, I was out!!!
  
  
  
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  Ever notice this contradiction?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so witnesses love using the scripture that says that "narrow and cramped is the road to life, and few are the ones finding it" as proof that they have the truth.

  yes, a small number.. yet they also love boasting about the "increases in numbers coming into the truth" as proof of jehovah's blessing of the society!.

  so, which is it?

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  My problem with this scripture is this: If God REALLY is a God of love and DOES NOT desire any to be destroyed, he would make truth VERY clear and convincing to people, resulting in the broad and wide road leading to life and NOT to destruction!
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  Possible two Leprosy cases in Riverside California elementary school. We have come a long way from the Bible GOD of the OT.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the earliest account of the disease appears in an egyptian papyrus around 1550 b.c.. hansen's or leprosy infected around 100-200 people in the u.s each year and most are.

  in the south, texas and louisiana no idea why.. in the bible leprosy is mentioned upwards of 40 times.

  the main reason why leprosy is talked.

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  By means of science, humans found a cure for leprosy, while God did NOTHING!
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  You Needed Me

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heavy, heavy upon my failing heart weighs your aching need for my full and loving devotion.. i spend myself willingly on your behalf because,truly, your needs and wishes outstrip my own.. if i were young and wiry man, for you i'd scale a rock and brave a torrent.. yes, that is what i do, no thought of self,to save my love from daily peril.strength and life escape my soul whilesafety i afford your gasping heart.. it's no loss i gave my all to grantyou life and to bid mine adieu..

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  Religion NEEDS people to survive! Without adherents who devote and sacrifice their precious time, energy, and resources for the interest of religion, religion will be DEAD. It's sad that many people sacrifice their life to give religion life, and end up WASTING their whole life as a result!
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  Just deleted all elders phone numbers

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  flying blind on the incoming calls but i am not fearfully looking around and will approach any religious zealots like a warrior.

  there nothing like the unpredictable, because these men it's all about the prediction..

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  Err... why not BLOCK those numbers BEFORE deleting them???