thats somthing i see thats asked in my kingdom hall if you want to go get more than 2 years in collage.thing in some one asking that to me or etc i cant say any thing or that would show that i dont believe.. i hate when some one askes me that when i try to plan ahead when it comes to what job i want.what job would help me hold my own but no god will give if you put him first.i dont believe in god even when i did i never buyed into that.. it seems you cant get away from the question im only 13 and i get that question theres no getting away from it..
Just use their own words against them. It's fun! ;)
For example:
If you really think the end is coming yourself, wouldn't you have already quit your job & started pioneering full-time???
Or...
Bro / sis X just bought a new car / house. Why don't you ask them the same question that you just asked me???
Savage mode works very well for me =)
thursday, august 31. jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 tim.
2:19.. in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christ’s death.
that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.
Thursday, August 31
Jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 Tim. 2:19.
In recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the Memorial of Christ’s death. That trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades. Should this increase trouble us? No. Let us consider some key factors to keep in mind. Those taking the count at the Memorial cannot judge who truly have the heavenly hope. The number of partakers includes those who mistakenly think that they are anointed. Some who at one point started to partake of the emblems later stopped. Others may have mental or emotional problems that lead them to believe that they will rule with Christ in heaven. Therefore, the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth. And the Bible does not state how many will be left at the time that the great tribulation begins. w16.01 4:12-14
It's fun to see how the borg tries desperately to justify the illogical increase of "anointed" ones when the math does not add up in the first place! This "anointed" concept should NOT even be in existence in our time to begin with! Think about it — they are actually saying that the hundreds of thousands of Christians who lived back in the first century WERE NOT ABLE to fill this number of 144,000??? Instead of labelling certain ones who partake as having mental and emotional problems, the GB does not have to look any further than THEMSELVES as they are undisputably the real whackos!
since leaving watchtower it still strikes me as odd how little i knew the real world and how it works.
i thought i knew how it worked but it turns out i didnt.
as jws we were always "courting with a view to marriage".you go on one date with a girl and everyone's expecting you're gonna marry her?
Well, we have Tinder and a whole lot of other dating apps now. Goodbye to those days of not being able to find a suitable partner amidst the very limited choices available in JW land. As what the thread title says, it's a whole new game out there and I'm loving it!
so i'm pretty sure my fade is complete.
haven't stepped foot inside a kh in 9 years.
but the concept of fading still makes me wonder.
What "sins" have I committed? All of the above, with the exception of getting a tattoo, excessive drinking, and donating to religious organizations. Also the addition of the following:
— Fornication. Humans are sexual beings and sex is a basic human need which should not be repressed, as long as it does not result in the hurt of others
— "Worldly" association. Lots of it!
— Association with disfellowshipped ones / "apostates". There is a growing number of such individuals who I know personally and keep in touch with
saturday, august 19. make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others.—phil.
1:10.. how can we train our conscience?
key ways are by regularly and prayerfully studying the bible, meditating on what we read, and then putting into practice what we have learned.
Saturday, August 19
Make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others.—Phil. 1:10.
How can we train our conscience? Key ways are by regularly and prayerfully studying the Bible, meditating on what we read, and then putting into practice what we have learned. Obviously, this involves more than accumulating facts and learning rules. Our study of the Bible should gradually give us an ever more precise picture of Jehovah, his personality, his qualities, and what he likes or dislikes. Our conscience becomes attuned to the ways of Jehovah God. This should stir our heart, moving us to want to become more and more like him. However, if we cannot understand the conscientious decision of a fellow believer on some personal matter, we should not quickly judge him or feel that we ought to pressure him to change his mind. Perhaps his conscience is still “weak” and in need of more training or is too sensitive on certain issues.—1 Cor. 8:11, 12. w15 9/15 2:4,8, 10
So JW's SHOULD NOT quickly judge others or pressure them to change their minds, BUT it is the OTHER person who is assumed to have a weak conscience and in need of more training and said to be too sentitive??? That ironically makes what was said before it about NOT judging completely irrelevant!!! Double-speak at its very best!
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
With much thought, research, study and logical examination
Looks like it wasn't much at all. Enjoy wasting away the rest of your life as a slave in the cult
born ins are in a unique position in that we never knew any other way of life.
no birthdays, christmas and overly superstitious family just seemed normal.
when my parents talked about their pre-jw life it seemed like they were talking about completely different people (actually, that's true, the cult had taken their real selves).. so i'd be interested in hearing how your parents were indoctrinated.. my dad.
My parents were both contacted in their teens. Both of them came from poor families. My dad had lost his father and my mum had an alcoholic father and a mother with severe OCD. Both were at an impressionable age with dysfunctional families and few friends. The desire to find comfort and a greater meaning in life got them sucked into "the truth". My dad ultimately rose to great prominence in the organization and eventually even ended up on the branch committee. My mum pioneered for many years and brought quite a number into "the truth". I guess they fall into the category of people who actually found fulfilment in "the truth". Being well-known and successful with many JW friends, they are quite happy and contented with life... apart from the fact that I - the son who they had spent all these years training to be a good JW - went rogue and left "the truth" in pursuit of a "worldly" girl
part 1 in here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5961287718666240/short-life-story-part-1.
so im 19, i decided to shut up and put all my doubts about god even existing to the back of my mind and just go along with it.
im sure things will be explained eventually, all i need is to humble myself and do more in "the truth" right?.
This is EXACTLY why I believe in living together BEFORE marriage. In JW land, you'll NEVER get to experience and REALLY UNDERSTAND what living together with the other person is actually like BEFORE you decide to spend the rest of your life WITH them!
the song is supposedly about marveling at god's creation but instead includes over the top adoration of the elders, conventions, and family worship.
lol getting a brother who sounds like a wannabe josh groban only adds to the cheesiness.
https://youtu.be/tzxf25gvs_m.
Agree with all the other comments here... apart from what has already been said, just would like to add that the song sounded very dull & drab... unsurprisingly. Just like the majority of the other JW songs. It sounded like the composers were trying to squeeze the lyrics INTO the song! Plus the reference about the convention being "the best one yet" was totally vomit-inducing!
it's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.
the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.
gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.
The problem is many JW's put up with the lack of love problem by using the 'imperfect men' excuse. They might view it as a local problem which pales in comparison to the "worldwide brotherhood". They justify it by thinking that there is still no better religion and that Jokehova would set things straight in his due time. The fact is that many ARE aware that there is a lack of love, YET fail to do anything about it due to the reasons above. It was however a major factor which led me to discover TTATT
