Posts by Divergent

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Why I have renounced Atheism and become a believer again

by cantleave in

i have always said that if a god showed itself i would follow the evidence and renounce my atheism.

i have now seen enough to start believing again, i am so happy, i feel a inner contentment, when he connected with me i really knew it was him.

if you are not a believer you will not understand this, but trust me, look at the evidence, open your heart to him, let him in and your life will change for the better.

Family Reuinion and Being Disfellowshipped (sorry...but it's long)

by babygirl30 in

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friends

it has been a long looong time since i posted on here, but never ceased reading all the posts and keeping up on the changes that have been going on!

but it just seems that now i have a need to get something off my chest, and this is the one place that will most definitely understand the topic at hand.

i have been disfellowshipped for about 8yrs now, and have dealt with the 'consequences' of that decision: all my so-called friends in the org left and i was also abandoned by my own family.

Divergent

Is there any way to have a family reunion WITHOUT your parents? Would be fun if the tables are turned & they are the ones unwelcome!

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How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society ?

by opusdei1972 in

in the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.

so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.

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Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?

by Naoscillator in

so a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.

only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.

he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.

Divergent

Never heard of that before. Always thought that ex-elders would have to work their way up to become a MS (never appointed immediately) before they can be recommended to become an elder again. Or perhaps times are changing and they are forced to re-appoint as MS immediately due to there being a lack of qualified men to take the lead?

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Captive virgins, polygamy and sex slaves: What marriage would look like if we actually followed the Bible

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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a friend linked this on his facebook page, sharing:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/captive-virgins-polygamy-and-sex-slaves-what-marriage-would-look-like-if-we-actually-followed-the-bible/one quote that stood out for me:"granted, sometimes even decent people do get sucked into a sort of text worship that i call bibliolatry, and bible worship can make a persons moral priorities as archaic and cruel as those of the iron age tribesmen who wrote the texts.

(i once listened, horrified, while a sweet, elderly pair of jehovahs witnesses rationalized the old testament slaughter of children with the same words nazis used to justify the slaughter of jewish babies.

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Divergent

I like this quote from the link:

But many who call themselves Bible believers are simply, congenitally conservative – meaning change-resistant. What really concerns them is protecting the status quo, an ancient hierarchy with privileged majority-culture straight males at the top, which they justify by invoking ancient texts.

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Teenage Jehovah’s Witness refuses blood transfusion and dies

by mana11 in

http://www.jwblood.org/teenage-jehovahs-witness-refuses-blood-transfusion-and-dies/.

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Divergent

He suffered multiple injuries in the crash which occurred as he was preaching to local people shopping on Saturday in Smethwick, West Mids.

So much for field circus...

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Teenage Jehovah’s Witness refuses blood transfusion and dies

by mana11 in

http://www.jwblood.org/teenage-jehovahs-witness-refuses-blood-transfusion-and-dies/.

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Divergent

Here's a better link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7734480/Teenage-Jehovahs-Witness-refuses-blood-transfusion-and-dies.html

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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???

by 1rebelheart in

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friends

so, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.

i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.

sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?

Divergent

Eh... what happened during '98 - '99? Only 0.4 % increase???

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Been away overseas! What's been going on here?

by stuckinarut2 in

hey all!.

ive been away overseas for the last few weeks seeing family etc.

also met some great old friends.. ive missed this forum.. whats new here?.

Divergent

Are your family overseas "in the truth"? My sympathies to you if they are, especially if you were bombarded with "spiritual talk"

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Will the resurrected marry/have children?

by davidmitchell in

i have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.

in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.

he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.

Divergent

Just went to take a look at the link which you gave -

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/jesus-sadducees-marriage-after-resurrection/

The last paragraph states:

Understandably, we may have many questions about life in the new world. Rather than needlessly speculating on the answers to those questions, we will just have to wait and see.

So we should not needlessly speculate. Fair enough

HOWEVER.....

If you read the 2nd paragraph of the answer, it states:

For years, our publications have said that Jesus’ words about the resurrection and getting married likely refer to the earthly resurrection and that those resurrected to life in the new world will evidently not marry.

So who was speculating??? By the WT's own admission, they are the ones who are guilty of it!!! After all, JW speculations are based on WT publications themselves!!!