Posts by Divergent

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So this Cute Chick at the KH ...

by brandnew in

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thought she was gonna take a pic of me on the sneak.

im df'd...been df'd for over 19 years already.

so she probably would have gotten away with it without anyone knowing.....except that her flash was on.

Living with Islam - in the small Australian city of Bendigo

by fulltimestudent in

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the wife of my friend (the one i call gayxjw) had ancestors from there.. back in the 19th century a lot of people came from all over the world to look for gold.

among them there were many chinese.

they were often very organised, bringing baby pigs on the ships from china, seeds and seedlings for gardens they planned to start, etc.

Divergent

Speaking about Bendigo, I know some JW's from there. If anyone here is from there, feel free to send me a PM

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Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve

by Tech49 in

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a new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.

dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.

we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.

Divergent

Perhaps you can use this as a reason to "be stumbled" & fade? If possible, that is...

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

Divergent

Nooooo! That's so sad! Was he df'ed / shunned? I don't know what it feels like to lose a sibling (yet), but my heart goes out to you & your family!

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Didn't get the Watchtower today at all

by Pioneerbot in

i know it's dumb to think it would make sense.

i've been telling myself to lay low because everytime i ask a question now my husband says i have a negative attitude and i sound like an apostate.

hmmm wonder why.

Divergent

Errr... Amen? =P

Anyway, I was more fixated with the "Jehovah protects & safeguards us but yet does not do so" part. That would be the more obvious part that would get people thinking. I wonder what the brothers & sisters in Malawi & or those in other countries which are undergoing or who have experienced tribulation are thinking. It's like a slap in the face to them!

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Didn't get the Watchtower today at all

by Pioneerbot in

i know it's dumb to think it would make sense.

i've been telling myself to lay low because everytime i ask a question now my husband says i have a negative attitude and i sound like an apostate.

hmmm wonder why.

Divergent

Are you referring to the posts made here? -

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6255910968098816/november-22-study-article-god-hypocrite-impartial

I didn't think about that point myself until fastJehu brought it up. The average JW would not know the difference at all. My understanding is that God only acknowledges people as his children after the thousand year reign (Rev 21: 7) Meaning to say if we call ourselves God's children now, it's as good as calling ourselves God's bastard children as he has not acknowledged his paternity towards us!

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Any time you didn't know what the h#ll to do and just let it ride?

by Esse quam videri in

i was conducting the theocratic ministry school years and years and years and years ago and announced the #3 speaker up to the platform.

this of course was the sister/sister talk at the table.

up comes the publisher, sister so-and-so and her 25 year old daughter as her householder.

Divergent

Imagine if the birth was premature & her water broke on stage. Now that would be something to see!

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Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

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Makemeanunbeliever:
Thats the problem with society today. Everyone has a different definition of "morals". No wonder the world has gone to hell in a hand basket. Someone or something has to set the standards. No one knows right from wrong anymore.

My definition / standard is very simple: It's your choice, as long as you don't hurt me or anyone else nor do you try to impose your standards on me

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Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

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Makemeanunbeliever:
I watched carefully those who left through the 30+ years when I was a regular JW. I never once saw anyone who left become more "moral". Actually quite the contrary. Smoking, drugs, sex with same sex, fornication and drunken recklessness most times. Stack atheist on that moral morass.

I believe that the more surpressed a person is, the more they would go wild once they leave! JW's are a surpressed lot & it's not surprising that many who leave would experiment which various activities which they were forbidden to engage in before

However, the perspective of morals is something which is subjective. Smoking? I don't smoke myself, nor would I encourage it, but I won't go as far as saying that a person who smokes is not moral. Same thing with drugs & getting drunk. Homosexuality? You would have a different perspective if you were born differently. Sex before marriage? I see nothing wrong with that, just practice safe sex!

Anyway, from personal experience, the things you mentioned above do not apply to those who I've seen who left, except for the fornication part, which I don't believe is wrong. With regard to the things which the OP mentioned, I would say that they are DEFINITELY more more ethical / aware in that sense. I can speak as one of them! =)

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Hey, this is me... I'm the guy on the left! =)

by Divergent in

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(picture taken from the wt study some weeks back).

all these years, i've always dreaded waking up early for field service.

i'm a night owl & love to sleep late, so it was excruciating for me to have to wake up early in the mornings & go door knocking.

Divergent

I stopped going out knocking on doors since may & i love sleeping in, making bfast & go to the gym to work out in the mornings. .. i never really liked going door knocking & always hoped no one came to the door because I never was & will be a good salesperson.. that was the very 1st thing I stop doing when I awoke & happy

May... so that makes it around 6 months. That should make you classified as "inactive" now. Congrats & welcome to the inactive club! =)

Like you, I didn't think of myself as a good salesperson. Never was able to start a study through D2D. I've had studied passed to me though, none of whom made spiritual progress (thankfully!). I was too lazy to do RV's & always had a guilty feeling about it. Then the thought struck me that the more I preached, the more bloodguilty it made me by my not calling on all those who I met, so why go out preaching & incurr bloodguilt in the first place???

I remember vividly the last time I went out in service. It was a pleasant Saturday morning & the territory was beautiful (in terms of scenery). Halfway through, my partner had to leave me to attend to something. I went to the next house & realized that I couldn't bring myself to knock without someone standing besides me! I just stood in front of the house like a dumbass. That's when I KNEW that I couldn't do it anymore!