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  Don't Want To Be At The RC This Year...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  the whole time i'll just be thinking about what effect all those crazy loyalty videos will have on my family.

  i can venture to guess that they'll be wound up and determined to "stay loyal" because this "is the truth" and "this system can't last much longer".

  i have to go because not doing so would raise too much suspicion but i'm really dreading it.

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  On a few occasions, our convention venue was at the same place as where we stayed. Hotel upstairs, hall downstairs. Guess who often snuck upstairs to sleep & chill? =)
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  When will they start spying on tablets/iPads at meetings?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  following on from a similar post, the use of tablets/ipads at the meetings is a life saver to many a bored or mentally out jw.

  i'm sure the borg must know the potential for surfing the net or reading other books instead of reading the meeting material during the meeting?.

  at what point are they going to start policing this?

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  They can't & won't. There is NO WAY that they can simultaneously monitor the electronic devices of dozens of people all at once. The most they can do is to control hall WiFi access & settings or have a local needs part about the proper usage of electronic devices. That's it. No need to become unnecessarily paranoid!
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  New Spiritually Weak Label: Not Using Tablet/iPhone

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with last night's meeting it became official: here in the states is a must to keep up with 'jehovah's org' that one fully jumps on board with this tablet/iphone crap.. so, now, all of us that up to this point have refused to follow the wtbts in their electronic/wireless revolution will deal with the browbeating from the 'spiritual' ones.. already receiving lots of grief from hubby and rest of the family/close friends when seen at the meetings with paper publications.

  damn it!!!

  am i alone in this resistance???!!!.

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  When I was fading, I LOVED being able to use my electronic devices at the meetings. I often surfed "apostate" sites such as this one! Also, I didn't like the way people JUDGE you when you use a paper publication WITHOUT underlining / writing in it. I switched to electronic devices & did away with all this nonsense!
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  New Spiritually Weak Label: Not Using Tablet/iPhone

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with last night's meeting it became official: here in the states is a must to keep up with 'jehovah's org' that one fully jumps on board with this tablet/iphone crap.. so, now, all of us that up to this point have refused to follow the wtbts in their electronic/wireless revolution will deal with the browbeating from the 'spiritual' ones.. already receiving lots of grief from hubby and rest of the family/close friends when seen at the meetings with paper publications.

  damn it!!!

  am i alone in this resistance???!!!.

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  Doubtfully Yours:

  And, yes... I am a technophobe, and find 'social media' just abhorrent; won't catch me dead on Twitter/Facebook/Youtube/Instagram/whatever else out there.

  Well, you ARE here, and this forum is a form of social media =)
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  So can you pray for others that are not JW's ? Or only JW's

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a witness, so i need to know...can we pray for someone that isn't a jw.

  reason i ask, once a friend of mine was going for an operation.

  i asked an elder could he pray with her before she goes into the hospital.

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  St George of England:

  During the Haiti earthquake a few years ago I mentioned the people in a prayer at the conclusion of the meeting.
  Nothing was said, to me anyway

  You might get away with it once or twice, BUT if you repeatedly pray for the people of an afflicted country instead of saying "the BROTHERS & SISTERS" from that country, the elders WILL talk to you sooner or later!

  It's an unwritten rule that we DON'T pray for non-witnesses, UNLESS we are praying for them to find "the truth"!
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  Squatters, UK and Canada

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a portland man who recently purchase a home was surprised to learn a family had moved ahead.

  of him and changed the locks.

  he called the police officer and he said there was nothing he could do.. he offered the occupant money to move out, without success.. squatters have rights here.. do squatters have rights in your country???

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  Nope. Fortunately common sense does prevail here where I am!

  
  

  There is a difference though when it comes to people who have occupied land (NOT private dwellings) for a long period of time. They could be able to claim compensation in certain cases when asked to move. Reason being that the land owner should have asked them to vacate within a reasonable period of time & they were negligent in caring for their land which the settlers in turn cared for. However, the squatters would NOT be able to claim the land for themselves contrary to the exanple which Talesin brought out earlier
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  Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

  by Divergent in

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  urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

  the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

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  Welcome, Waves! Sorry to hear about your experience. Glad to hear though that you both are still friends. Do you think things would have worked out for you guys if he had not dumped you?
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  Are JWs now encouraged to volunteer?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after i retired i volunteered for several community service programs, including working with the local food bank.

  every fourth thursday of each month i help out in distributing food to needy families at the local veterans building.

  i've been helping out for five years now.

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  Looks like they are going undercover to preach & they have an ulterior motive in helping
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  Moment of awakening?

  by Freeandclear in

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  2. experiences

  i just recalled something from my past that i've not thought about in a very long time, but it did have a significant impact on me whether i knew it or not at the time....... i have a sister who was born when i was 15. my family are not jw's thank the universe!

  but me as an uberdub at the time convinced my young sister to have a study.

  she was about 14 or 15 at the time i'd guess.

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  Doing more research about the blood issue + child abuse scandals & visiting this site + other "apostate" sites awakened me instantly!

  
  

  What led to my awakening was me realizing this: If JW's REALLY have the truth, WHY do we have to be so afraid of apostate sites as truth is supppsed to EASILY overcome lies? UNLESS...
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  Publishers in Tokyo/ Fast decreasing

  by nakanozzi in

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  2. beliefs

  these photos were taken in 2013.publishers chatting away during the field service　were quite common around my neighborhood few years ago.but they are rarely seen in these days.. .

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  I've been out in field service in Japan before. Went from door to door where most people were out or did not answer the door & also held placards at a train station. It was a complete waste of time...